{"id":10163,"date":"2007-03-09T16:31:19","date_gmt":"2007-03-09T21:31:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/10163.html"},"modified":"2007-03-09T16:31:19","modified_gmt":"2007-03-09T21:31:19","slug":"noonan-worried-about-wincing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/noonan-worried-about-wincing\/","title":{"rendered":"Noonan worried about &#8216;wincing&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Wall Street Journal&#8217;s Peggy Noonan devoted <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opinionjournal.com\/columnists\/pnoonan\/?id=110009761\">her column<\/a> today to what she sees as a harshness in our public discourse. She begins by equating Ann Coulter&#8217;s &#8220;faggot&#8221; comment with Bill Maher&#8217;s suggestion that Dick Cheney&#8217;s death could save lives in Iraq.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The truth is many liberals were dismayed by Mr. Maher because he made them look bad, and many conservatives were mad at Ms. Coulter for the same reason.<\/p>\n<p>I realized as I watched it all play out that there&#8217;s a kind of simple way to know whether something you just heard is something that should not have been said. It is: Did it make you wince? When the Winceometer is triggered, it&#8217;s an excellent indication that what you just heard is unfortunate and ought not to be repeated. <\/p>\n<p>In both cases, Mr. Maher and Ms. Coulter, when I heard them, I winced. Did you? I thought so. In modern life we wince a lot.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Noonan&#8217;s broader point was that we should reject political correctness and efforts to curb offensive speech, and instead embrace some ambiguous &#8220;wince&#8221; standard &#8212; if the average American &#8220;winces&#8221; at a controversial statement, the speaker should show greater restraint.<\/p>\n<p>As Steve M. <a href=\"http:\/\/nomoremister.blogspot.com\/2007\/03\/in-yet-another-column-asserting-that.html\">noted<\/a>, that&#8217;s an &#8220;interesting standard&#8221; for Noonan to take, in light of her own wince-worthy comments.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nFor example, Noonan <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opinionjournal.com\/columnists\/pnoonan\/?id=110008579\">wrote<\/a> last summer: &#8220;Frank Rich is running around with his antiwar screeds as if it&#8217;s 1968 and he&#8217;s an idealist with a beard, as opposed to what he is, a guy who if he pierced his ears gravy would come out.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>On Hillary Clinton, Noonan <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opinionjournal.com\/columnists\/pnoonan\/?id=110008579\">added<\/a>, &#8220;No one in America thinks she&#8217;s a woman. They think she&#8217;s a tough little termagant in a pantsuit. They think she&#8217;s something between an android and a female impersonator. She is not perceived as a big warm mommy trying to resist her constant impulse to sneak you candy. They think she has to resist her constant impulse to hit you with a bat&#8230;. She does not seem like someone who would anguish and weep over sending men into harm&#8217;s way&#8230;. Maybe she thinks that if she wept, the wires that hold her together would short.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Like Steve M., I found both of these more than enough to &#8220;wince,&#8221; and I thought I&#8217;d add a couple more that come to mind.<\/p>\n<p>Two years ago, it was Noonan who said Mark Felt, Watergate&#8217;s Deep Throat, was indirectly <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opinionjournal.com\/columnists\/pnoonan\/?id=110006763\">responsible for genocide<\/a> in Cambodia.<\/p>\n<p>Around the same time, it was also Noonan who argued during the Schiavo controversy that liberals &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.opinionjournal.com\/columnists\/pnoonan\/?id=110006460\">seem to have fallen half in love with death<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And a few years before that Noonan <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyhowler.com\/h042800_1.shtml\">argued<\/a> that Bill Clinton wasn&#8217;t &#8220;a man&#8221; because he wasn&#8217;t willing to separate Elian Gonzales from his father in Cuba.<\/p>\n<p>If &#8220;wincing&#8221; was the standard for which political figures are judged, Noonan should have given up her column years ago.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Wall Street Journal&#8217;s Peggy Noonan devoted her column today to what she sees as a harshness in our public discourse. She begins by equating Ann Coulter&#8217;s &#8220;faggot&#8221; comment with Bill Maher&#8217;s suggestion that Dick Cheney&#8217;s death could save lives in Iraq. The truth is many liberals were dismayed by Mr. Maher because he made [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10163","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10163","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10163"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10163\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10163"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10163"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10163"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}