{"id":10607,"date":"2007-04-24T15:06:08","date_gmt":"2007-04-24T19:06:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/10607.html"},"modified":"2007-04-24T15:06:08","modified_gmt":"2007-04-24T19:06:08","slug":"ok-lets-talk-about-treason","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/ok-lets-talk-about-treason\/","title":{"rendered":"OK, let&#8217;s talk about &#8216;treason&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tom DeLay thinks Democrats&#8217; criticism of the war borders, literally, on <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2007\/04\/24\/delay-treason\/\">treason<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In an interview with the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review editorial board yesterday, former Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX) accused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) of &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pittsburghlive.com\/x\/pittsburghtrib\/news\/cityregion\/s_504197.html\">getting very, very close to treason<\/a>&#8221; by opposing the war in Iraq. When a member of the editorial board noted that treason is a &#8220;pretty serious charge,&#8221; DeLay shot back, &#8220;And I&#8217;m serious about it.&#8221; He added that he had looked up the definition on his way to the interview (probably a good idea), and it meant &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2006\/11\/02\/tom-delays-definition-of-torture\/\">the betrayal of trust<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>DeLay specifically attacks Reid, saying that &#8220;in the time of war, with soldiers dying on the ground, announcing that we had lost the war, is very close to treasonous.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>TP noted that &#8220;none of this should come as a surprise. DeLay, who is currently under <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2007\/04\/17\/oreilly-delay-duke\/\">criminal indictment<\/a> for money laundering and criminal conspiracy, has a long history of <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2006\/08\/10\/delay-liberals\/\">attacking the patriotism<\/a> of progressives.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s true, but let&#8217;s take a moment to delve into what, exactly, amounts to treason.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nBorrowing liberally from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/id\/2079324\/\">Slate&#8217;s William Saletan<\/a>, let&#8217;s provide some context for DeLay&#8217;s concerns.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re sympathetic to a far-right worldview, you can probably muster some understanding for the former Majority Leader throwing around words like &#8220;treason.&#8221; After all, Harry Reid called the war in Iraq a &#8220;quagmire&#8221; and compared it to Vietnam. He said it would &#8220;drag on&#8221; indefinitely, costing billions. He accused the president of failing to specify how long our troops would have to stay, and he urged the administration to withdraw. When &#8220;the body bags start coming home,&#8221; Reid said, it&#8217;s time to cut our losses.<\/p>\n<p>Reid kept going, talking about the need for peace. &#8220;The White House has bombed its way around the globe,&#8221; he sneered. &#8220;International respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly.&#8221; As for the current war plan, Reid complained that &#8220;no one wants us to be there&#8221; and that the president&#8217;s crusade &#8220;has harmed [our] standing in the world.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And given the climate, I suppose Reid was pushing his luck when he urged Congress to de-fund the war and &#8220;pull out the forces we now have in the region.&#8221; What&#8217;s worse, Reid basically made the United States look like the bad guy. Once a U.S.-led coalition &#8220;starts meddling in the internal affairs of sovereign nations, where does it stop?&#8221; Reid asked. He charged that we were &#8220;starting to resemble a power-hungry imperialist army&#8221; and portrayed our mission as an &#8220;occupation by foreigners.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Are all of these comments harsh? Do they undermine the troops while they&#8217;re in harm&#8217;s way? Do they amount, literally, to &#8220;treason&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>Before our friends on the right answer these questions, they should keep one minor detail in mind: all of these quotes I attributed to Harry Reid weren&#8217;t said by Reid at all &#8212; they came from Tom DeLay, on the House floor, about President Clinton&#8217;s war in Kosovo. It never occurred to him then, as it does now, that criticizing a war and questioning a military campaign is an unpatriotic attack on the country and its military.<\/p>\n<p>I guess when those treason indictments start coming down, there will be plenty of people facing charges, right Tom?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tom DeLay thinks Democrats&#8217; criticism of the war borders, literally, on treason. In an interview with the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review editorial board yesterday, former Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX) accused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) of &#8220;getting very, very close to treason&#8221; by opposing the war in Iraq. 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