{"id":10932,"date":"2007-05-28T09:50:56","date_gmt":"2007-05-28T13:50:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/10932.html"},"modified":"2007-05-28T09:50:56","modified_gmt":"2007-05-28T13:50:56","slug":"what-are-we-doing-here-why-are-we-still-here","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/what-are-we-doing-here-why-are-we-still-here\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;What are we doing here? Why are we still here?&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The NYT&#8217;s Michael Kamber spent a week with Delta Company, an infantry company in Baghdad, and talking to more than a dozen soldiers in the unit. They&#8217;re disillusioned, frustrated, skeptical that their mission is worthwhile, and slowly beginning to realize that the Iraqis they&#8217;re <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2007\/05\/27\/world\/middleeast\/28cnd-delta.html?ex=1337918400&#038;en=fc2e242c52e79554&#038;ei=5090&#038;partner=rssuserland&#038;emc=rss\">training are the same Iraqis attacking them<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Staff Sgt. David Safstrom does not regret his previous tours in Iraq, not even a difficult second stint when two comrades were killed while trying to capture insurgents.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;In Mosul, in 2003, it felt like we were making the city a better place,&#8221; he said. &#8220;There was no sectarian violence, Saddam was gone, we were tracking down the bad guys. It felt awesome.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But now on his third deployment in Iraq, he is no longer a believer in the mission. The pivotal moment came, he says, this February when soldiers killed a man setting a roadside bomb. When they searched the bomber&#8217;s body, they found identification showing him to be a sergeant in the Iraqi Army.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I thought: &#8216;What are we doing here? Why are we still here?&#8217; &#8221; said Sergeant Safstrom, a member of Delta Company of the First Battalion, 325th Airborne Infantry, 82nd Airborne Division. &#8220;We&#8217;re helping guys that are trying to kill us. We help them in the day. They turn around at night and try to kill us.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I know it&#8217;s a holiday, and a lot of folks probably aren&#8217;t going to be keeping up on the news today, but I hope people will read this article. Every word.<\/p>\n<p>There was a firefight on April 29, for example, near Delta Company&#8217;s base. The united faced about 60 insurgents during a gun battle that raged for two and a half hours. &#8220;When the battle was over, Delta Company learned that among the enemy dead were at least two Iraqi Army soldiers that American forces had helped train and arm.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Capt. Douglas Rogers said it was &#8220;a watershed moment&#8221; for the unit. They realized they were fighting the same Iraqi security forces that are supposed to be allied with U.S. troops. &#8220;Before that fight, there were a few true believers.&#8221; Captain Rogers said. &#8220;After the 29th, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll find a true believer in this unit.&#8221;<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;In 2003, 2004, 100 percent of the soldiers wanted to be here, to fight this war,&#8221; said Sgt. First Class David Moore, a self-described &#8220;conservative Texas Republican&#8221; and platoon sergeant who strongly advocates an American withdrawal. &#8220;Now, 95 percent of my platoon agrees with me.&#8221; [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>To Sergeant O&#8217;Flarity, the Iraqi security forces are militias beholden to local leaders, not the Iraqi government. &#8220;Half of the Iraqi security forces are insurgents,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>As for his views on the war, Sergeant O&#8217;Flarity said, &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe we should be here in the middle of a civil war.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve all lost friends over here,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Most of us don&#8217;t know what we&#8217;re fighting for anymore. We&#8217;re serving our country and friends, but the only reason we go out every day is for each other.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t want any more of my guys to get hurt or die,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;If it was something I felt righteous about, maybe. But for this country and this conflict, no, it&#8217;s not worth it.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>To hear John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, the Bush White House, and other war supporters tell it, these courageous soldiers &#8212; heroes, all &#8212; want to &#8220;wave a white flag&#8221; to al Qaeda. They don&#8217;t want to fight a war on terror. They want to cut and run.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s absurd to the point of outrage. I suspect conservative war supporters would dismiss an article like this, suggesting that this is just one unit, and their comments reflect the opinions of just a dozen or so soldiers. Maybe, Republicans would argue, their perspective is unique and part of a small minority.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s possible, but I don&#8217;t think so. Articles like these have become too common. Troops are on the front lines, and they&#8217;re training our enemies and making al Qaeda&#8217;s job easier. They can&#8217;t tell friend from foe, they see no end in sight, and they no longer believe their mission is worthwhile.<\/p>\n<p>To support these troops is to support bringing them home.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The NYT&#8217;s Michael Kamber spent a week with Delta Company, an infantry company in Baghdad, and talking to more than a dozen soldiers in the unit. They&#8217;re disillusioned, frustrated, skeptical that their mission is worthwhile, and slowly beginning to realize that the Iraqis they&#8217;re training are the same Iraqis attacking them. Staff Sgt. 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