{"id":12489,"date":"2007-08-09T16:30:36","date_gmt":"2007-08-09T20:30:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/12489.html"},"modified":"2007-08-09T16:30:36","modified_gmt":"2007-08-09T20:30:36","slug":"clinton-obama-and-nukes-oh-my","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/clinton-obama-and-nukes-oh-my\/","title":{"rendered":"Clinton, Obama, and nukes &#8230; oh my"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last week, Barack Obama caused an unexpected (and largely unwarranted) stir when he said he wouldn&#8217;t use nuclear weapons to attack terrorists in Pakistan and Afghanistan. His critics (from both parties) didn&#8217;t disagree with his policy position, but they blasted him for making the comments publicly.<\/p>\n<p>It was irresponsible, critics said, for a would-be president to talk about nuclear options in a hypothetical scenario. In particular, Hillary Clinton <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2007\/08\/02\/AR2007080202288.html\">chided Obama<\/a>, saying, &#8220;Presidents since the Cold War have used nuclear deterrents to keep the peace, and I don&#8217;t believe any president should make blanket statements with the [<em>sic<\/em>] regard to use or nonuse.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Her comments became more noteworthy <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/ap\/20070809\/ap_on_el_pr\/clinton_nuclear_weapons;_ylt=An7mFk55kQfros97plOu3LOs0NUE\">today<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton, who chastised rival Barack Obama for ruling out the use of nuclear weapons in the war on terror, did just that when asked about Iran a year ago. &#8220;I would certainly take nuclear weapons off the table,&#8221; she said in April 2006.<\/p>\n<p>Her views expressed while she was gearing up for a presidential run stand in conflict with her comments this month regarding Obama, who faced heavy criticism from leaders of both parties, including Clinton, after saying it would be &#8220;a profound mistake&#8221; to deploy nuclear weapons in Afghanistan and Pakistan. [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Clinton, who has tried to cast her rival as too inexperienced for the job of commander in chief, said of Obama&#8217;s stance on Pakistan: &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe that any president should make any blanket statements with respect to the use or non-use of nuclear weapons.&#8221; But that&#8217;s exactly what she did in an interview with Bloomberg Television in April 2006.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is a mild embarrassment for the Clinton campaign, but I&#8217;d argue that the entire flap has been one bit of silliness followed by another.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nFor the sake of clarity, here&#8217;s exactly what <a href=\"http:\/\/electioncentral.tpmcafe.com\/blog\/electioncentral\/2007\/aug\/09\/heres_a_transcript_of_hillarys_full_no_nukes_exchange\">Clinton said<\/a> about Iran and nukes in April 2006:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>HUNT: Senator, you sit in the Armed Services Committee. There were reports this weekend, the &#8220;Washington Post&#8221; and elsewhere, that the United States is considering a military option against Iran if it won&#8217;t relinquish any ambitions to nuclear weapons. The &#8220;New Yorker&#8221; even said that we&#8217;re considering using nuclear -\u2013 tactical nuclear weapons. Should those options be on the table when it comes to Iran?<\/p>\n<p>CLINTON: Well, I have said publicly no option should be off the table, but I would certainly take nuclear weapons off the table. And this administration has been very willing to talk about using nuclear weapons in a way we haven&#8217;t seen since the dawn of a nuclear age. I think that&#8217;s a terrible mistake.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Phil Singer, Clinton&#8217;s campaign spokesperson, said Clinton&#8217;s remarks are qualitatively different because she &#8220;wasn&#8217;t talking about a broad hypothetical nor was she speaking as a presidential candidate.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Maybe. Frankly, the differences between Clinton&#8217;s comments and Obama&#8217;s are minimal, and more importantly, their policies are <i>practically indistinguishable<\/i>. As Greg Sargent <a href=\"http:\/\/electioncentral.tpmcafe.com\/blog\/electioncentral\/2007\/aug\/09\/heres_a_transcript_of_hillarys_full_no_nukes_exchange\">explained<\/a>, &#8220;Hillary was clearly ruling out nukes in a very specific situation: Whether to use them against Iran. On the other hand, Obama was ruling them out in a specific situation, if a hypothetical one: Whether he&#8217;d use them against terrorists in Pakistan and Afghanistan. So what we now have here is this: One candidate (Obama) ruled out nukes in a specific but hypothetical situation; the other (Hillary) ruled them out in a specific but more or less non-hypothetical one.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s see if I have all the silliness straight. An AP reporter asked Obama a silly question about nuking terrorists. The media then offered silly coverage of an obvious and non-silly response. Clinton was silly to attack Obama over this, as were the silly GOP candidates who tried to make hay of this. Another silly story appears today about Clinton&#8217;s apparent contradiction, which, if it came from the Obama campaign, would be silly.<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s the bottom line? Obama and Clinton believe the same thing about the same issue, and have stated the same, non-controversial policy publicly. And yet, it&#8217;s been a huge point of contention for a week &#8230; for reasons that I still don&#8217;t fully understand.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week, Barack Obama caused an unexpected (and largely unwarranted) stir when he said he wouldn&#8217;t use nuclear weapons to attack terrorists in Pakistan and Afghanistan. His critics (from both parties) didn&#8217;t disagree with his policy position, but they blasted him for making the comments publicly. 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