{"id":12848,"date":"2007-09-11T16:24:52","date_gmt":"2007-09-11T20:24:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/12848.html"},"modified":"2007-09-11T16:24:52","modified_gmt":"2007-09-11T20:24:52","slug":"will-victory-in-iraq-make-us-safer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/will-victory-in-iraq-make-us-safer\/","title":{"rendered":"Will &#8216;victory&#8217; in Iraq make us safer?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today&#8217;s Senate hearings with Gen. David Petraeus and Amb. Ryan Crocker have been surprisingly informative, but I have a hunch this may prove to be the one-minute exchange that you&#8217;ll be hearing the most about.<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"250\" height=\"185\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/vjpD46yLPvc\"><\/param><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"transparent\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/vjpD46yLPvc\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" wmode=\"transparent\" width=\"250\" height=\"185\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p>The clip shows Sen. John Warner (R-Va.) asking Petraeus specifically whether &#8220;victory&#8221; in Iraq will make the United States safer. Petraeus is surprisingly blunt, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know, actually.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The question was, at first blush, almost a set-up. I can&#8217;t speak to Warner&#8217;s motivations, obviously, but it seemed like a softball &#8212; Warner would ask if success would make us safer, Petraeus would say yes, and Warner could move on to exploring how to make the policy produce a &#8220;victory.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But Petraeus seemed to miss his cue. As Spencer Ackerman <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tpmmuckraker.com\/archives\/004150.php\">noted<\/a>, &#8220;Bush describes a victory in Iraq as an epochal achievement for America and a potentially decisive blow to terrorism,&#8221; but asked today whether a victory, no matter how unlikely it appears, would make us safer, the top commander in the theater isn&#8217;t certain.<\/p>\n<p>Now, to be fair, I don&#8217;t want to wrench this from context. Petraeus probably didn&#8217;t intend to make such a sweeping concession; he probably meant to argue that he&#8217;s focused on the mission in front of him. Whether the success of that mission helps improve the security of the United States simply isn&#8217;t on his radar.<\/p>\n<p>But this wasn&#8217;t a trick question. If we&#8217;re fighting a war, conditions are dismal, and hard-to-predict success won&#8217;t improve our national security, then it reinforces the idea that maybe, just maybe, <i>we should get the hell out of there<\/i>.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nFor those who can&#8217;t see video clips from their work computers, here&#8217;s a transcript, by way of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.democracyarsenal.org\/2007\/09\/petraeus-doesnt.html\">Ilan Goldenberg<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Senator Warner: Are you able to say at this time if we continue what you have laid before the congress here, this strategy, do you feel that that is making America safer?<\/p>\n<p>General Petraeus: Sir, I believe this is indeed the best course of action to achieve our objectives in Iraq.<\/p>\n<p>Warner: Does that make America safer?<\/p>\n<p>General Petraeus: Sir I don&#8217;t know actually. I have not sat down and sorted in my own mind what I have focused on and what I have been riveted on is how to accomplish the mission of the multinational force Iraq.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I have a hunch we&#8217;ll be seeing quite a bit of this one.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today&#8217;s Senate hearings with Gen. David Petraeus and Amb. Ryan Crocker have been surprisingly informative, but I have a hunch this may prove to be the one-minute exchange that you&#8217;ll be hearing the most about. The clip shows Sen. John Warner (R-Va.) asking Petraeus specifically whether &#8220;victory&#8221; in Iraq will make the United States safer. 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