{"id":13479,"date":"2007-11-05T10:06:44","date_gmt":"2007-11-05T15:06:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/13479.html"},"modified":"2007-11-05T10:06:44","modified_gmt":"2007-11-05T15:06:44","slug":"mccain-giuliani-get-personal-over-torture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/mccain-giuliani-get-personal-over-torture\/","title":{"rendered":"McCain, Giuliani get personal over torture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One would like to think that the Republican Party has advanced to the point in which a debate over torture would no longer be necessary, but we&#8217;re apparently not quite there yet. Given the circumstances, I suppose we should be pleased that there are still voices of opposition within the GOP at all.<\/p>\n<p>Rudy Giuliani&#8217;s position on waterboarding has been incoherent, even by his standards. Last week, he suggested the torture tactic from the Spanish Inquisition could be utilized fairly, but it was dependent on &#8220;circumstances&#8221; and &#8220;who was doing it.&#8221; On Bloomberg TV over the weekend, Al Hunt told the former mayor that John McCain disagrees. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2007\/11\/02\/rudy-the-waterboarder_n_70978.html\">Hunt asked Giuliani<\/a> if he know more about torture than McCain.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t say that I do but I do know a lot about intensive questioning and intensive questioning techniques. After all, I have had a different experience than John. John has never been &#8211; he has never run city, never run a state, never run a government. He has never been responsible as a mayor for the safety and security of millions of people, and he has never run a law enforcement agency, which I have done.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Now, intensive questioning works. If I didn&#8217;t use intensive questioning, there would be a lot of mafia guys running around New York right now and crime would be a lot higher in New York than it is. Intensive question has to be used. Torture should not be used. The line between the two is a difficult one.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s hard to wade through all of this stupidity, but it certainly sounds as if Giuliani is saying he understands torture policy because he used &#8220;intensive&#8221; interrogation techniques against U.S. criminals in New York City. Indeed, he&#8217;s been talking like this for <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2007\/11\/04\/giuliani-intensive-questioning\/\">quite a while<\/a>, boasting about his willingness to use &#8220;very aggressive techniques&#8221; on criminal suspects.<\/p>\n<p>This not only raises a whole new wrinkle to Giuliani&#8217;s policy problems, it also drew a sharp rebuke from McCain.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nOn the latter point, the Arizona senator <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boston.com\/news\/politics\/politicalintelligence\/2007\/11\/torture_debate.html\">said<\/a> what needed to be said.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Republican debate over torture has become a debate over resumes, as John McCain warns from personal experience about the dangers of harsh questioning and Rudy Giuliani takes credit for his skill with it as a prosecutor.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;When someone says waterboarding is similar to harsh interrogation techniques used against the mafia in New York City, they do not have enough experience to lead our military,&#8221; McCain said Sunday night at a town-hall meeting here. [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>On Friday, McCain, a former POW, criticized pro-torture opponents who &#8220;chose to do other things when this nation was fighting its wars.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For that matter, Giuliani&#8217;s comments about the kind of interrogation techniques that he personally approved just screams for some follow-up. What kind of tactics did he endorse, exactly?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One would like to think that the Republican Party has advanced to the point in which a debate over torture would no longer be necessary, but we&#8217;re apparently not quite there yet. Given the circumstances, I suppose we should be pleased that there are still voices of opposition within the GOP at all. 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