{"id":13540,"date":"2007-11-09T15:31:32","date_gmt":"2007-11-09T20:31:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/13540.html"},"modified":"2007-11-09T15:31:32","modified_gmt":"2007-11-09T20:31:32","slug":"rove-tees-off-on-nutty-bloggers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/rove-tees-off-on-nutty-bloggers\/","title":{"rendered":"Rove tees off on &#8216;nutty&#8217; bloggers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Karl Rove may no longer be wreaking havoc in the West Wing, but he&#8217;s still managing to make provocative political comments. Yesterday, for example, during a speech about politics and the web in DC, the man the president affectionately calls &#8220;Turd Blossom&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/video1.washingtontimes.com\/fishwrap\/2007\/11\/karl_roves_advice_for_fuming_s.html\">lamented<\/a> the &#8220;angry and vitriolic people&#8221; who now have &#8220;a voice in public discourse&#8221; thanks to the Internet.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;People in the past who have been on the nutty fringe of political life, who were more or less voiceless, have now been given an inexpensive and easily accessible soapbox, a blog,&#8221; Mr. Rove said&#8230;. &#8220;I&#8217;m a fan of many blogs. I visit them frequently and I learn a lot from them. But there also blogs written by angry kooks.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Rove cited the results of a study that found that writers and commenters on liberal blogs such as DailyKos.com cursed far more than writers and commenters on conservative Web sites such as FreeRepublic.com.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;My point is not that liberals swear publicly more often than conservatives. That may be true, but that&#8217;s not my point,&#8221; Mr. Rove said. &#8220;It is that the netroots often argue from anger rather than reason, and too often, their object is personal release, not political persuasion.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Rove concluded that we may actually even be undermining democracy, because &#8220;the dark side of the Web can actually turn off voters.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s hard to know where to start with analysis that&#8217;s this inane, but let&#8217;s offer a non-kooky, non-nutty assessment of his misguided criticism.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nFirst, the notion that major liberal political blogs are somehow embracing &#8220;fringe&#8221; ideas is silly. The netroots are broad and diverse, but the vast majority of the leading sites offer ideas that enjoy broad support with the American public.<\/p>\n<p>Or, put another way, liberal blogs are pretty mainstream. Support for Rove&#8217;s former boss, however, <i>that&#8217;s<\/i> on the fringe on political life.<\/p>\n<p>Second, if Rove is really worried about &#8220;angry kooks,&#8221; I can think of several dozen conservatives who fit the description. They&#8217;re all big fans of Rove.<\/p>\n<p>Third, if profanity is a genuine concern about the quality of our discourse, perhaps Rove can comment on Dick Cheney&#8217;s decision to tell Pat Leahy to &#8220;go f*** himself,&#8221; and then refusing to apologize for it.<\/p>\n<p>Fourth, it&#8217;s ironic that Rove is whining about arguing &#8220;from anger rather than reason,&#8221; given that it was Rove himself who insisted publicly that liberals in America are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/13266.html\">literally treasonous<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>As for the notion that somehow <i>blogs<\/i> are responsible for turning people away from the political process, we have a long way to go before we catch up to the anti-democratic, sleazy <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2007\/11\/09\/rove-bloggers\/\">tactics of Karl Rove<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>* When Bush ran against Democratic Texas governor Ann Richards in 1994, Rove was connected to a rumor that Richards was a lesbian.<\/p>\n<p>* A former Rove staffer said that during the 1996 Alabama Supreme Court race, the campaign of Harold See &#8212; run by Rove &#8212; &#8220;initiated a whisper campaign&#8221; that See&#8217;s opponent &#8220;was a pedophile.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>* &#8220;Political operatives&#8221; have charged that Rove orchestrated a &#8220;widely disseminated rumor that John McCain, tortured as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, had betrayed his country under interrogation and been rendered mentally unfit for office.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Rove concluded that he hopes liberal blogs keep doing what we&#8217;re doing because, he said, we help Republicans.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d like to test that theory.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Karl Rove may no longer be wreaking havoc in the West Wing, but he&#8217;s still managing to make provocative political comments. Yesterday, for example, during a speech about politics and the web in DC, the man the president affectionately calls &#8220;Turd Blossom&#8221; lamented the &#8220;angry and vitriolic people&#8221; who now have &#8220;a voice in public [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13540","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13540","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13540"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13540\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13540"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13540"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13540"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}