{"id":13832,"date":"2007-12-06T14:30:42","date_gmt":"2007-12-06T19:30:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/13832.html"},"modified":"2007-12-06T14:30:42","modified_gmt":"2007-12-06T19:30:42","slug":"white-house-tries-to-redefine-truthful","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/white-house-tries-to-redefine-truthful\/","title":{"rendered":"White House tries to redefine &#8216;truthful&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The problem with Bush&#8217;s fairly transparent lies about the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran isn&#8217;t just that they&#8217;re obvious; it&#8217;s that they&#8217;re clumsy.<\/p>\n<p>Asked when he learned about Iran&#8217;s halted nuclear-weapons program, the president said it was &#8220;last week.&#8221; White House officials then conceded it was actually in August.<\/p>\n<p>Asked about the August briefing, the president said the Director of National Intelligence told him there was &#8220;new information,&#8221; but &#8220;didn&#8217;t tell&#8221; him what it was. White House officials then conceded Bush was told that the August briefing included a discussion about Iran possibly having suspended its nuclear program four years ago.<\/p>\n<p>Asked about any warnings he may have received in August about toning down his rhetoric on Iran, the president said, &#8220;[N]obody ever told me that.&#8221; White House officials then conceded Bush was told to &#8220;stand down&#8221; when it came to Iran, advice the president chose to ignore.<\/p>\n<p>This isn&#8217;t complicated. When Bush says one thing, and then White House officials tell us that reality is something different, then <i>necessarily<\/i> what the president told us wasn&#8217;t true. Now, this could qualify as a lie (if he knew the truth at the time), or it could qualify as incompetence (if he just doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s talking about), but it really has to be one or the other.<\/p>\n<p>Unless, of course, you&#8217;re the <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2007\/12\/06\/perino-lie-bush\/\">White House press secretary<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;OK, look. I can see where you could see that the president could have been more precise in that language. But the president was being truthful.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I can enjoy rhetorical parsing as much as the next guy, but in no way is it possible to characterize obviously-false remarks as &#8220;truthful,&#8221; unless Dana Perino changed the meaning of the word when no one was looking.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nIt&#8217;s gracious of Perino to concede that Bush could have been &#8220;more precise,&#8221; but precision isn&#8217;t really the problem here. When &#8220;last week&#8221; is &#8220;last August,&#8221; Bush is being more than just imprecise. When not being aware of new information becomes being aware of new information, those are <em>opposites<\/em>, not shades or degrees.<\/p>\n<p>Also from the briefing, CNN&#8217;s Ed Henry, building off <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2007\/12\/04\/hersh-bush-iran-2\">a report<\/a> from the New Yorker&#8217;s Seymour Hersh, brought a new angle to all of this.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Q: Can you just clarify one more thing? What day was the president actually briefed on the NIE?<\/p>\n<p>PERINO: I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t know.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Well, because Mr. Hadley left the impression that it was last Wednesday.<\/p>\n<p>PERINO: Oh, on the NIE, specifically?<\/p>\n<p>Q: On the NIE.<\/p>\n<p>PERINO: Yes, last Wednesday.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Last Wednesday? OK. But there have been reports that the president briefed Prime Minister Olmert last week, maybe on Monday.<\/p>\n<p>PERINO: I don&#8217;t know.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Did he brief Prime Minister Olmert? And how could he brief Olmert on Monday about a report that he found out about on Wednesday? Can you\u2026<\/p>\n<p>PERINO: I don&#8217;t &#8212; I will check.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And just for the fun of it, I thought I&#8217;d mention that according to the standards Ken Starr established in 1998, if a president is caught lying &#8212; even in response to a reporter&#8217;s question, whether he&#8217;s under oath or not &#8212; it&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/5711.html\">an impeachable offense<\/a>. That&#8217;s not my standard; it&#8217;s Ken Starr&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p>Just sayin&#8217;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The problem with Bush&#8217;s fairly transparent lies about the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran isn&#8217;t just that they&#8217;re obvious; it&#8217;s that they&#8217;re clumsy. Asked when he learned about Iran&#8217;s halted nuclear-weapons program, the president said it was &#8220;last week.&#8221; White House officials then conceded it was actually in August. Asked about the August briefing, the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13832","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13832","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13832"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13832\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13832"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13832"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13832"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}