{"id":13893,"date":"2007-12-12T09:15:38","date_gmt":"2007-12-12T14:15:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/13893.html"},"modified":"2007-12-12T09:15:38","modified_gmt":"2007-12-12T14:15:38","slug":"white-house-hints-but-wont-say-that-waterboarding-is-legal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/white-house-hints-but-wont-say-that-waterboarding-is-legal\/","title":{"rendered":"White House hints, but won&#8217;t say, that waterboarding is legal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Between CIA revelations, months of reports, detainee testimony, and John Kiriakou&#8217;s very public comments, there is no longer a question as to whether Bush administration officials used waterboarding to torture suspects. But the White House can&#8217;t concede reality because a) the Bush gang has to maintain the fiction that it opposes torture; and b) torture is still illegal.<\/p>\n<p>It led to an Abbott-and-Costello-like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/news\/releases\/2007\/12\/20071211-7.html\">press briefing<\/a> with Dana Perino yesterday. A reporter asked whether the questioning of Abu Zubaydah conformed with &#8220;the interrogation program approved by President Bush.&#8221; Perino would only say, &#8220;All have been done within the legal framework that was set out after September 11th&#8230;. The entire program has been legal.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>After the obligatory, &#8220;The United States does not torture,&#8221; we saw this exchange.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Q: But when you have a former CIA officer, John Kiriakou, now saying that waterboarding was used &#8212; since you&#8217;re saying the interrogations were legal; he&#8217;s saying on the record now, waterboarding was used in at least one case. You&#8217;re saying waterboarding is legal?<\/p>\n<p>PERINO: Ed, I&#8217;m saying I&#8217;m not commenting on any specific technique. I&#8217;m not commenting on that gentleman&#8217;s characteristics of any possible technique. I&#8217;ve given you a very general statement about interrogations being legal, limited and &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Q: You just said it was legal.<\/p>\n<p>PERINO: I&#8217;m sorry?<\/p>\n<p>Q: You said it was within the legal framework.<\/p>\n<p>PERINO: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Everything that was done.<\/p>\n<p>PERINO: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>Q: So waterboarding is legal.<\/p>\n<p>PERINO: I&#8217;m not commenting on any specific techniques.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Got that? We know U.S. officials used waterboarding, Perino wants us to know U.S. officials&#8217; techniques were legal, but she doesn&#8217;t want us to connect point A to point B. She can&#8217;t say waterboarding is legal (it&#8217;s not), she can&#8217;t say it&#8217;s illegal (it is), so she can&#8217;t say anything coherent at all.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nAnd best of all, the <i>reason<\/i> Perino won&#8217;t comment on waterboarding is because &#8212; get this &#8212; terrorists might be listening to the White House press briefing. Fortunately, the press corps didn&#8217;t find this persuasive, either.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Q: Dana, can I come back to the waterboarding question? I understand the rationale for not wanting to discuss specific techniques &#8212; it&#8217;s to not tip off America&#8217;s enemies, to help them train as to how to evade what questioning they get. After a retired team member is on nationwide television explaining exactly what was done, is there an al Qaeda operative anywhere who doesn&#8217;t know that this might be in the arsenal?<\/p>\n<p>PERINO: Obviously, al Qaeda listens closely to everything that we do and say, and that&#8217;s something that we should be &#8212; that we should keep in mind&#8230;. [M]atters of sensitivity should remain classified and not spoken about publicly.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But therein lies the point: it&#8217;s already been spoken about publicly. <i>At great length<\/i>. This isn&#8217;t a secret; it&#8217;s a torture technique developed during the Spanish Inquisition, and prosecuted by previous administrations as a war crime. It&#8217;s in the news, it&#8217;s in congressional hearings, it&#8217;s even in presidential debates.<\/p>\n<p>So what on earth is Dana Perino talking about?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Between CIA revelations, months of reports, detainee testimony, and John Kiriakou&#8217;s very public comments, there is no longer a question as to whether Bush administration officials used waterboarding to torture suspects. But the White House can&#8217;t concede reality because a) the Bush gang has to maintain the fiction that it opposes torture; and b) torture [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13893","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13893","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13893"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13893\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13893"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13893"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13893"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}