{"id":13924,"date":"2007-12-14T13:30:29","date_gmt":"2007-12-14T18:30:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/13924.html"},"modified":"2007-12-14T13:30:29","modified_gmt":"2007-12-14T18:30:29","slug":"note-to-rudy-just-give-up-on-immigration","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/note-to-rudy-just-give-up-on-immigration\/","title":{"rendered":"Note to Rudy: Just give up on immigration"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In Republican circles, immigration is just too big an issue for a presidential candidate to ignore completely, but Rudy Giuliani&#8217;s record on the issue makes it almost impossible for him to have any credibility with the GOP&#8217;s far-right base.<\/p>\n<p>In this latest TV ad, Giuliani insists he&#8217;ll provide &#8220;leadership&#8221; to &#8220;end&#8221; illegal immigration.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;People are frustrated over immigration because the government has been talking about solving this for 20 or 25 years, and it&#8217;s just gotten worse. What we need here is leadership. Build a fence. Train the border patrol. Have a BorderStat system. Have a tamper-proof ID card. And then if you become a citizen you have to be able to read English, write English, speak English and understand American civics. We can end illegal immigration. The technology exists to do it; the people exist to do it. Now we need the political leadership and will to get it done.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For voters who consider immigration one of their top issues, chances are, Giuliani isn&#8217;t really a credible candidate anyway. But therein lies the point: there&#8217;s just no reason for Giuliani to even try to make a pitch like this. It&#8217;s just too easy to point to his record and make him appear foolish.<\/p>\n<p>In the ad, Giuliani emphasizes exactly how he would &#8220;end&#8221; illegal immigration. As mayor, he <a href=\"http:\/\/tpmelectioncentral.com\/2007\/08\/rudy_in_1996_well_never_ever_be_able_to_totally_control_immigration.php\">said the opposite<\/a>: &#8220;We&#8217;re never, ever going to be able to totally control immigration to a country that is as large as ours, that has borders that are as diverse as the borders of the United States, and as a society that wants to be a country that values freedom &#8212; that values freedom of movement, freedom to do business&#8230;So we just have to accept that if we want to be the kind of country that we are.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s also <a href=\"http:\/\/tpmelectioncentral.com\/2007\/12\/_rudy_now_says_he_wanted_to_deport_400000_illegals_as_mayor_contradicting_what_he_said_at_the_time.php\">this classic<\/a> from Giuliani&#8217;s tenure: &#8220;If you come here and you work hard and you happen to be in an undocumented status, you&#8217;re one of the people who we want in this city.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Today, the Romney campaign dug up perhaps the most damaging Giuliani quote yet on the issue.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nIt&#8217;s been making the rounds on several sites today, but if you haven&#8217;t seen it, Giuliani takes a <a href=\"http:\/\/tpmelectioncentral.com\/2007\/12\/romney_campaign_uses_rudys_past_proimmigration_quotes_in_new_video.php\">decidedly liberal approach<\/a> to undocumented workers.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The city of New York, quite frankly, is quite tolerant of undocumented immigration and this shouldn&#8217;t surprise you because I&#8217;ve been the mayor for a long time and outspoken on this issue even nationally, and I happen to agree with that. I think NYC should not deal with undocumented immigrants in a harsh way. I think they make a big contribution to the life of the city and we&#8217;re much better off being sensible and practical about it.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Given this, Giuliani&#8217;s latest TV ad is pretty silly, and his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/a-1097819~In_New_York__illegal_immigration_took_a_back_seat_to_making_the_city_safe.html\">recent rhetoric<\/a> is transparently false.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In an interview for the new book &#8220;Meet the Next President,&#8221; Giuliani lamented that the Immigration and Naturalization Service deported only 700 to 1,500 of the city&#8217;s 400,000 aliens each year during his mayoralty. Giuliani said it was obvious the INS was not about to increase deportation &#8220;from 700 or 1,500 to 400,000.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If they could, I would have turned all the people over. It would have helped me. I would have had a smaller population. I would have had fewer problems,&#8221; the Republican presidential candidate told The Examiner in an interview. &#8220;But the practical reality was, they were going to make an infinitesimal, statistically insignificant contribution to the problem. I was stuck with it. And no matter what their promises, they weren&#8217;t going to do anything about it.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I see. In 2007, Giuliani looks back and wishes he could have deported all 400,000 undocumented immigrants, but that darned Clinton administration wouldn&#8217;t help him out.<\/p>\n<p>But while he was actually in office, he said undocumented workers were the kind of &#8220;people who we want in this city,&#8221; and welcomed them with open arms because of the &#8220;contribution&#8221; they make to the life of New York.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a wild idea: how about Giuliani simply run as a pro-immigration Republican? It&#8217;d win over the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal, and it&#8217;d be far less humiliating than trying to explain all of these quotes from his mayoral tenure.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In Republican circles, immigration is just too big an issue for a presidential candidate to ignore completely, but Rudy Giuliani&#8217;s record on the issue makes it almost impossible for him to have any credibility with the GOP&#8217;s far-right base. In this latest TV ad, Giuliani insists he&#8217;ll provide &#8220;leadership&#8221; to &#8220;end&#8221; illegal immigration.&#8221; &#8220;People are [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13924","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13924","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13924"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13924\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13924"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13924"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13924"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}