{"id":15126,"date":"2008-04-06T09:02:33","date_gmt":"2008-04-06T13:02:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/15126.html"},"modified":"2008-04-06T09:02:33","modified_gmt":"2008-04-06T13:02:33","slug":"clinton-still-pushing-back-on-02-iraq-vote","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/clinton-still-pushing-back-on-02-iraq-vote\/","title":{"rendered":"Clinton still pushing back on &#8217;02 Iraq vote"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Every Dem has to reach their own conclusion about how seriously to take senators&#8217; 2002 votes authorizing Bush to go to war with Iraq. I try not to use the vote as a litmus test &#8212; John Kerry and John Edwards both went the wrong way on that vote, arguably for the wrong reasons, and I nevertheless supported their ticket enthusiastically four years ago.<\/p>\n<p>Similarly, of course, Hillary Clinton also voted the wrong way nearly six years ago. Some voters are willing to overlook the mistake, some aren&#8217;t. Yesterday in Eugene, Ore., the senator heard from some in the latter group, fielding questions that CBS News <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/blogs\/2008\/04\/05\/politics\/fromtheroad\/entry3996192.shtml\">described<\/a> as &#8220;testier&#8221; than any she&#8217;d received &#8220;in quite a while.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I made a considered judgment, I didn&#8217;t make a speech, I made a decision and it was a decision based on my best assessment on what would be in the interest of our country at that very uncertain time.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>Clinton said that historians will judge if her decision was the right one, but she reminded voters that Obama&#8217;s voting record on the war is not very different than hers. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;When you want to compare, compare decisions so when Senator Obama came to the Senate, he and I voted exactly the same except for one vote and that happens to be the facts.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So far, so good. Over the last four years, Clinton&#8217;s and Obama&#8217;s votes on Iraq <i>have<\/i> been nearly identical. She made a &#8220;considered judgment&#8221; six years ago, which turned out to be wrong, but when it comes to voting records, Clinton has a reasonable case to make &#8212; both she and Obama have been largely on the same page since &#8217;04.<\/p>\n<p>But then, at the Oregon event yesterday, Clinton pushed the point a little too far.<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Obama has been credited with foreseeing a troublesome war in Iraq primarily due to a speech he gave in 2002 while he was a state senator, where he spoke out against the war. Clinton said, &#8220;I started criticizing the war in Iraq before he did. So, I&#8217;m well aware that his entire campaign is premised on a speech he gave in 2002 and I give him credit for making that speech. But that was not a decision.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The notion that Obama has premised &#8220;his entire campaign&#8221; on a 2002 speech strikes me as pretty unfair, but it&#8217;s that first line that might raise a few eyebrows: &#8220;I started criticizing the war in Iraq before he did.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>My hunch is that Clinton wishes she could take that one back, because she almost certainly didn&#8217;t mean it. Indeed, it contradicted her own remarks at the event &#8212; Obama warned in &#8217;02 that the war would be a mistake, while Clinton was making a &#8220;considered judgment&#8221; that gave the White House the green light for war. She wasn&#8217;t criticizing the war before Obama, she was helping clear the way for war while Obama was urging the nation to follow a smarter course.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not inclined to hold Clinton&#8217;s &#8217;02 vote against her. I&#8217;m also inclined to shrug my shoulders about Clinton&#8217;s reluctance to acknowledge that her vote was a mistake. But it&#8217;s discouraging that she was willing, at least yesterday, to start bragging about criticism she didn&#8217;t make.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Every Dem has to reach their own conclusion about how seriously to take senators&#8217; 2002 votes authorizing Bush to go to war with Iraq. I try not to use the vote as a litmus test &#8212; John Kerry and John Edwards both went the wrong way on that vote, arguably for the wrong reasons, and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-15126","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15126","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15126"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15126\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15126"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15126"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15126"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}