{"id":15470,"date":"2008-05-08T10:00:46","date_gmt":"2008-05-08T14:00:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/15470.html"},"modified":"2008-05-08T10:00:46","modified_gmt":"2008-05-08T14:00:46","slug":"unfortunate-racial-talk-creeps-back-into-democratic-campaign","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/unfortunate-racial-talk-creeps-back-into-democratic-campaign\/","title":{"rendered":"Unfortunate racial talk creeps back into Democratic campaign"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hillary Clinton still clearly hopes to make a case to the Democratic Party that she&#8217;d be the strongest candidate in a general election, but I have a hunch she&#8217;d like to take <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/news\/politics\/election2008\/2008-05-07-clintoninterview_N.htm\">this one<\/a> back.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,&#8221; she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article &#8220;that found how Sen. Obama&#8217;s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s a pattern emerging here,&#8221; she said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>USA Today described these as &#8220;blunt remarks about race.&#8221; When a candidate equates &#8220;hard-working Americans&#8221; with &#8220;white Americans,&#8221; I can&#8217;t help but wonder if &#8220;blunt&#8221; is a strong enough adjective. (The Obama campaign called Clinton&#8217;s remarks &#8220;not true and frankly disappointing.&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p>Larry Sabato, head of the University of Virginia Center for Politics, said Clinton&#8217;s comment was a &#8220;poorly worded&#8221; variation on the way analysts have been &#8220;slicing and dicing the vote in racial terms.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The remark came the same day chief Clinton strategist Geoff Garin also made <a href=\"http:\/\/tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com\/2008\/05\/hillary_chief_strategist_north.php\">a similar case<\/a> for her electability in rather explicit race-based terms.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.eschatonblog.com\/2008_05_04_archive.html#8375348015322310554\">Atrios noted<\/a> that there&#8217;s nothing especially wrong with a campaign talking about targeting specific groups of voters, but added, &#8220;What the Clinton campaign is doing is saying that Obama has electability problems, and using their support from white voters as evidence of that. That&#8217;s a wee bit problematic, and not just because it doesn&#8217;t follow logically any more than the other electability arguments such as Obama can&#8217;t win the election because he can&#8217;t win the primary in big states.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Quite right.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nLet&#8217;s put aside the unfortunate wording of Clinton&#8217;s statement in which she equated &#8220;hard-working&#8221; with &#8220;white,&#8221; and consider the merits of her broader point.<\/p>\n<p>Clinton has done well with white &#8220;hard-working&#8221; Americans, especially in states like Pennsylvania. But her argument is premised on the notion that White Joe Six Pack who votes in a Democratic primary would rather support a Republican than Obama. Where&#8217;s the proof to bolster this claim? There isn&#8217;t any.<\/p>\n<p>By the logic of Clinton&#8217;s argument, we should also note that her support among African Americans is quite poor, and the &#8220;pattern&#8221; is pretty clear. Are we to assume that if she were the nominee, those same voters would back McCain over her? That Clinton couldn&#8217;t possibly win because she&#8217;d never get the support of African-American Dems? Of course not.<\/p>\n<p>Why, then, characterize the race in this illogical, race-based way?<\/p>\n<p>For that matter, <a href=\"http:\/\/nomoremister.blogspot.com\/2008\/05\/white-people-all-important-just.html\">Steve M. raises<\/a> a very important point.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>According to CNN&#8217;s 1996 exit poll, Bill Clinton lost the white vote (Dole 46%, Clinton 43%, Perot 9%). He lost the white male vote by an even larger margin (Dole 49%, Clinton 38%, Perot 11%). And he lost gun owners badly (Dole 51%, Clinton 38%, Perot 10%). However, Clinton won the popular vote overall 49%-41%-8%, and he won 70% of the electoral votes.<\/p>\n<p>In 2000 &#8212; when Al Gore won the popular vote by half a million votes &#8212; he lost white males to Bush by a whopping 60%-36%, according to CNN&#8217;s exit poll. He lost men overall 53%-42%. He lost whites overall 54%-42%. He lost gun owners 61%-36%. He lost small-town voters 59%-38% and rural voters 59%-37%. He lost the Midwest overall 49%-48%.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not saying these are goals to aspire to. I&#8217;m saying it&#8217;s a myth that Democrats had Joe Sixpack in their back pockets until that snooty arugula-eater Barack Obama came along, and it&#8217;s a myth that they suffer crushing defeats when bowlers and boilermaker-drinkers aren&#8217;t on board.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I suppose the Clinton campaign may believe that her primary success with working-class white men in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio suggests she&#8217;d outperform her husband and Al Gore, but there&#8217;s no evidence to support that, either.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hillary Clinton still clearly hopes to make a case to the Democratic Party that she&#8217;d be the strongest candidate in a general election, but I have a hunch she&#8217;d like to take this one back. &#8220;I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,&#8221; she said in an interview with USA TODAY. 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