{"id":16177,"date":"2008-07-12T11:40:16","date_gmt":"2008-07-12T15:40:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/16177.html"},"modified":"2008-07-12T11:40:16","modified_gmt":"2008-07-12T15:40:16","slug":"why-iraqs-withdrawal-talk-gives-obama-an-edge","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/why-iraqs-withdrawal-talk-gives-obama-an-edge\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Iraq&#8217;s withdrawal talk gives Obama an edge"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>While much of the talk was no doubt influenced by the ongoing negotiations between Iraqi officials and the Bush administration over a long-term security agreement, one of the major takeaways of the week was the frequent talk from Iraqi leaders about a U.S. withdrawal. Different officials referenced different timelines, but there was a common thread &#8212; Shi&#8217;a leaders (you know, the ones in charge) disapprove of an indefinite U.S. presence.<\/p>\n<p>On Thursday, Ali al-Dabbagh said a U.S. pullout could be completed in several years. &#8220;It can be 2011 or 2012,&#8221; he said. &#8220;We don&#8217;t have a specific date in mind, but we need to agree on the principle of setting a deadline.&#8221; This prompted Spencer Ackerman to all but declare the Iraq debate over, <a href=\"http:\/\/attackerman.firedoglake.com\/2008\/07\/10\/obamairaq\/\">with Barack Obama as the winner<\/a> &#8212; Iraqis have rejected McCain&#8217;s policy, leaving a President Obama to negotiate the &#8220;specific date&#8221; that Iraqis are prepared to accept.<\/p>\n<p>Slate&#8217;s Fred Kaplan <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/id\/2195134\/\">reached a similar conclusion<\/a>, noting that Obama&#8217;s policy has been &#8220;endorsed&#8221; by the prime minister of Iraq and his government.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The stab from Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki turned into a comedy routine. Maliki stated this week that he would not sign any treaty allowing U.S. armed forces to remain on his nation&#8217;s soil\u2014the current accord, known as a Status of Forces Agreement, expires at the end of this month &#8212; unless it includes a timetable for their withdrawal.<\/p>\n<p>Obama has called for just such a timetable. McCain has opposed one, famously saying that a substantial number of U.S. combat troops might need to stay in Iraq for another 100 years.<\/p>\n<p>When asked about Maliki&#8217;s statement, McCain told reporters that it had been mistranslated &#8212; to which Maliki responded that, no, the English version was correct. At that point, some of McCain&#8217;s supporters said that the prime minister wasn&#8217;t serious, that he&#8217;d been forced by political constituencies to demand a timetable. Maliki again insisted that he meant what he&#8217;d said. (Even if he was caving to political pressures, one could infer that this suggests a majority of Iraqis and their major parties want us to commit to getting out in the not-too-distant future.) [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Maliki&#8217;s insistence on this score makes life a lot easier for Obama.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s for sure. Americans are ready for a withdrawal; Iraqis are ready for a withdrawal; Obama has proposed a withdrawal; and the Maliki government wants a withdrawal.<\/p>\n<p>The only people talking about an indefinite war, folllowed by an indefinite presence, are George W. Bush and John McCain.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nKaplan added:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>McCain pressured him into planning a trip to Iraq this summer &#8212; he hadn&#8217;t been there for two years &#8212; so he can see the place up close before making judgments about its future. While he&#8217;s there, Obama will be briefed by Gen. David Petraeus and other commanders; he&#8217;ll probably also talk with junior officers and enlisted men, and with Iraqi politicians, too. Security in Iraq is better than it was a year ago. To <i>some<\/i> degree, this improvement <i>is<\/i> the result of George W. Bush&#8217;s surge (combined with Petraeus&#8217; strategy, Muqtada Sadr&#8217;s cease-fire, the paying of many insurgents to stop shooting at us, and, most important, the alliance between U.S. forces and Sunni insurgents against the common enemy of al-Qaida &#8212; an alliance initiated by the Sunnis before the surge began). <\/p>\n<p>It might have been awkward for Obama to praise the troops&#8217; accomplishments then rapidly pull them out. But he could say, &#8220;If our friend the Iraqi prime minister wants us to set a schedule for withdrawing, well, how could any president of the United States insist otherwise?&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And that would be a tough argument to condemn. McCain&#8217;s going to try, but I don&#8217;t see it working.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While much of the talk was no doubt influenced by the ongoing negotiations between Iraqi officials and the Bush administration over a long-term security agreement, one of the major takeaways of the week was the frequent talk from Iraqi leaders about a U.S. withdrawal. 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