{"id":16224,"date":"2008-04-08T09:15:49","date_gmt":"2008-04-08T13:15:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/15142.html"},"modified":"2008-04-08T09:15:49","modified_gmt":"2008-04-08T13:15:49","slug":"the-reports-of-penns-ouster-may-have-been-greatly-exaggerated","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/the-reports-of-penns-ouster-may-have-been-greatly-exaggerated\/","title":{"rendered":"The reports of Penn&#8217;s ouster may have been greatly exaggerated"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dems everywhere, most notably at Clinton campaign headquarters, breathed a sigh of relief late Sunday when the campaign announced that Mark Penn was no longer Clinton&#8217;s top campaign strategist. There was some talk that Penn would maintain some kind of role with the team, but no one took that seriously &#8212; when the campaign replaced Patti Solis Doyle as Clinton&#8217;s campaign manager, they said the same thing, but it was just a courtesy to lessen the blow of being fired.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, consider how Sunday night&#8217;s news was perceived. The political world learned that Penn was &#8220;forced out.&#8221; He&#8217;d been &#8220;replaced.&#8221; It&#8217;s the latest campaign &#8220;staff shake-up.&#8221; Penn &#8220;stepped down,&#8221; involuntarily.<\/p>\n<p>But yesterday, after the news surfaced, we started to get the sense that Penn may have lost his title, but he <a href=\"http:\/\/marcambinder.theatlantic.com\/archives\/2008\/04\/penn_out_then_in.php\">hasn&#8217;t actually gone anywhere<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Mr. Penn took part on the campaign&#8217;s morning message call [yesterday] morning, as usual.<\/p>\n<p>This afternoon, he is also scheduled to be on a call with Clinton and other aides to begin to prepare for Saturday&#8217;s presidential debate in Philadelphia.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Penn &#8220;is still going to be very much involved,&#8221; a senior campaign official said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So, if Penn is still &#8220;very much involved,&#8221; he&#8217;s still part of the team, he&#8217;s still on the conference calls shaping the campaign&#8217;s message, and he&#8217;ll still responsible for preparing Clinton for upcoming debates, it starts to look as though Penn lost his title, but very little else.<\/p>\n<p>The New York Daily News <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/news\/politics\/2008\/04\/08\/2008-04-08_mark_penn_still_in_clinton_loop_source_.html\">reported<\/a> that Penn will maintain his &#8220;role as an adviser and pollster&#8221; for the Clinton campaign, and quoted a Penn confidant saying, &#8220;Reports of Mark&#8217;s death are greatly exaggerated.&#8221; A senior Clinton adviser added, &#8220;You don&#8217;t break a circle like that easily and quickly.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This certainly doesn&#8217;t sound like a guy who has &#8220;stepped down.&#8221;<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nThe Huffington Post <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/04\/07\/penn-speaks-in-private-wi_n_95508.html\">added<\/a> that Penn hosted a conference call with Burson Marsteller&#8217;s managing directors to &#8220;persuade them that the fallout from his resignation was both overblown and would soon pass.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[H]e confirmed that while his title with the campaign had changed &#8212; and his work load would undoubtedly decrease &#8212; he still would play a direct advisory role for Clinton. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think you&#8217;ve heard that I made the decision to step down as chief strategist of the Clinton campaign. Penn Schoen and Berland is going to continue to poll for it and I&#8217;ll continue to play a role advising Senator Clinton and former President Clinton as well as the rest of the leadership of the campaign,&#8221; he said. <\/p>\n<p>Later, he added: &#8220;The title, the position of chief strategist tended to be one that drew a tremendous amount of attention. And, number two, yes, I will have more time. We will continue &#8211; Penn and Schoen will continue to do the polling and I will be advising, but the net of it will still be that I will have more time than I otherwise would have had so that definitely is going to be the case.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The interesting angle to watch, then, moving forward is whether the same voices urging Penn&#8217;s ouster late last week pick up again in response to reports that Penn didn&#8217;t actually step down. Most notably, Gerald McEntee, head of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees union and one of Clinton&#8217;s most prominent supporters, reportedly pushed aggressively for Penn&#8217;s dismissal, which contributed to Sunday&#8217;s announcement.<\/p>\n<p>If McEntee sees reports that Penn is still a key figure in the Clinton campaign, will he start working the phones again? I suspect he will.<\/p>\n<p>On CNN yesterday, Paul Begala <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/blogs\/bensmith\/0408\/Begala_Pressure_to_fully_boot_Penn.html\">added<\/a>, &#8220;I&#8217;m not going to lie to you, there&#8217;s a lot of pressure among pro-Clinton labor leaders, but also non-labor leaders who&#8217;ve been unsatisfied with Penn&#8217;s strategy, who&#8217;ve been disappointed in Penn&#8217;s conflict of interest and there&#8217;s still a clamor to eliminate him entirely from that campaign. And, and I don&#8217;t think the Clinton campaign has done that yet. I think Penn is still very much involved.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, the Change To Win labor federation, which supports Barack Obama, has posted a blog item that argues, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.changetowin.org\/connect\/2008\/04\/mark_penn_still_has_to_go.html\">Mark Penn Still Has To Go<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Looks like the campaign&#8217;s headache has not yet gone away.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dems everywhere, most notably at Clinton campaign headquarters, breathed a sigh of relief late Sunday when the campaign announced that Mark Penn was no longer Clinton&#8217;s top campaign strategist. There was some talk that Penn would maintain some kind of role with the team, but no one took that seriously &#8212; when the campaign replaced [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16224","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16224","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16224"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16224\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16224"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16224"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16224"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}