{"id":16244,"date":"2008-04-09T16:30:09","date_gmt":"2008-04-09T20:30:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/15162.html"},"modified":"2008-04-09T16:30:09","modified_gmt":"2008-04-09T20:30:09","slug":"vice-president-biden","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/vice-president-biden\/","title":{"rendered":"Vice President Biden?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I certainly won&#8217;t claim to be the most well-connected blogger on this side of the &#8216;sphere, but over the last couple of weeks, I&#8217;ve chatted with a few DC politicos, all of whom mentioned they&#8217;ve been hearing a lot of &#8220;VP buzz&#8221; about Joe Biden, most notably if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee.<\/p>\n<p>This afternoon, I&#8217;ve seen the same point being bandied about in several circles. Marc Ambinder <a href=\"http:\/\/marcambinder.theatlantic.com\/archives\/2008\/04\/veepstakes_the_ambinder_shortl.php\">got the ball rolling<\/a>, putting Biden among the frontrunners for Obama&#8217;s VP slot (along with Daschle, Napolitano, Dodd, Webb, and Hagel). &#8220;[Biden&#8217;s] hidden asset is his connection with white, working class voters,&#8221; Ambinder said. &#8220;His obvious asset is his foreign policy experience.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com\/archives\/2008\/04\/veep_thoughts_stick_to_basics.php\">Yglesias<\/a> seems lukewarm on the idea.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Biden&#8217;s a sometimes maddening figure, but he&#8217;s been impressive lately and there&#8217;s a lot to be said on his behalf. But putting someone who voted for the war, even someone who did so half-heartedly and after making a quasi-promising effort to restrain Bush, seems to muddy way too much of the argument Obama is making.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonmonthly.com\/archives\/individual\/2008_04\/013496.php\">Kevin<\/a> said Biden seems like a &#8220;decent choice,&#8221; and disagrees with Yglesias&#8217; Iraq-related objection.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Once [Obama] leaves the cozy confines of a primary where the anti-war base is enough to win, Obama is going to enter the chillier territory of a general election where he&#8217;ll need to draw a bunch of votes from the ranks of people who once supported the war. He needs a good way to signal these folks that he doesn&#8217;t consider them tainted forever by their erstwhile support, and what better way than by choosing a moderately hawkish senator who once favored the war but has since changed his mind? The opposite tack &#8212; insisting that he&#8217;ll associate only with the pure of heart who opposed the war from the beginning &#8212; would be something of a disaster. People won&#8217;t vote for a candidate who tacitly seems to be calling them idiots.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I tend to think Kevin&#8217;s right about this, in part because Obama already has credibility on the issue by virtue of having gotten the big question right. He wouldn&#8217;t necessarily need a running mate who agreed with him on Iraq from the start, and would disqualify many qualified people if he did.<\/p>\n<p>That said, I have a few concerns, and at least one big reason I don&#8217;t think Biden will be the choice.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nThis is petty and borderline-silly, but the very first thought that popped into my mind was that awful ranking system from the National Journal. If Biden were Obama&#8217;s running mate, the RNC and its cohorts will boast that the Democratic ticket featured the #1 and #3 most liberal senators. It&#8217;d be ridiculous, but I guarantee it&#8217;d be at the top of the talking points.<\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, I can certainly appreciate Biden&#8217;s positives. He&#8217;s very smart and one of the most knowledgeable and articulate Democratic voices on foreign affairs in the party. He&#8217;s also proven that he knows how to smack Republican candidates around when he has to. (Two of my very favorite moments from &#8217;07 were Biden hitting Giuliani <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=p7Y8AFctpjo\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mPOAKXBi9Pw\">here<\/a>. Months later, I still love them, and wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing similar remarks directed at McCain&#8217;s ticket in the fall.)<\/p>\n<p>But the negatives are numerous. First and foremost, Biden led the way on that ridiculous bankruptcy bill, and I&#8217;ll probably never forgive him for it. Second, he eschews message discipline, and is well known for sticking his foot in his mouth with embarrassing gaffes. Third, I can&#8217;t think of a single state or constituency that Biden would help Obama win in a general election that Obama couldn&#8217;t win just as easily with someone else.<\/p>\n<p>Even putting all of that aside, I just don&#8217;t think Obama would pick Biden, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/mayhill-fowler\/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html\">at least not for VP<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Last night at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Barack Obama took a question on what he&#8217;s looking for in a running mate. &#8220;I would like somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I&#8217;m not as expert on,&#8221; he said, and then he was off and running. &#8220;I think a lot of people assume that might be some sort of military thing to make me look more Commander-in-Chief-like. Ironically, this is an area &#8212; foreign policy is the area where I am probably <i>most<\/i> confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Right or wrong, Obama isn&#8217;t thinking about adding a running mate to bolster his credibility on foreign policy; he believes he already has the credibility he needs.<\/p>\n<p>And if that&#8217;s not the direction Obama is considering, then Biden&#8217;s chances appear remote. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I certainly won&#8217;t claim to be the most well-connected blogger on this side of the &#8216;sphere, but over the last couple of weeks, I&#8217;ve chatted with a few DC politicos, all of whom mentioned they&#8217;ve been hearing a lot of &#8220;VP buzz&#8221; about Joe Biden, most notably if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee. 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