{"id":16308,"date":"2008-07-21T15:25:06","date_gmt":"2008-07-21T19:25:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/16273.html"},"modified":"2008-07-21T15:25:06","modified_gmt":"2008-07-21T19:25:06","slug":"iraqis-obama-and-2010","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/iraqis-obama-and-2010\/","title":{"rendered":"Iraqis, Obama, and 2010"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Following up on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/16268.html\">an item<\/a> from this morning, the AP ran a story noting that Ali al-Dabbagh, the spokesperson for the Maliki government in Iraq, endorsed the idea of a U.S. withdrawal &#8220;by 2010.&#8221; The timeframe, the AP noted, is &#8220;similar to Obama\u2019s proposal to pull back combat troops within 16 months.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The AP piece did not, however, include any direct quotes. Fortunately, <a href=\"http:\/\/talkingpointsmemo.com\/archives\/204908.php\">there&#8217;s a video<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"250\" height=\"185\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/oNGevn8vHRg\"><\/param><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"transparent\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/oNGevn8vHRg\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" wmode=\"transparent\" width=\"250\" height=\"185\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p>Now, the audio isn&#8217;t great, and English isn&#8217;t Dabbagh&#8217;s first language, but he seems to say, &#8220;We are not talking about the timetable which has been used for the [U.S.] election. We are talking on a real timetable that <i>Iraqis<\/i> set.&#8221; When a reporter asked what that timetable would be, it sounded like Dabbagh said, &#8220;Up to 2010.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>By saying he&#8217;s making a distinction between Iraqi expectations and the U.S. presidential election, Dabbagh seems to be arguing that the Maliki government and Barack Obama have the same timeframe in mind, but that&#8217;s just a happy coincidence. Obama wants to have U.S. troops out by 2010, and Maliki wants U.S. troops out by 2010, but only because it&#8217;s a sound, sensible policy. Maliki&#8217;s support for the timetable is independent of Obama&#8217;s support for the same timetable.<\/p>\n<p>Whatever. Frankly, it doesn&#8217;t much matter <i>why<\/i> Iraqi officials support Obama&#8217;s policy; it matters <i>that<\/i> they support Obama&#8217;s policy.<\/p>\n<p>And given all of this, the media couldn&#8217;t possibly screw up the story, right? Well, there&#8217;s still the Washington Post&#8230;.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nKeep in mind, at this point, the Post is the nation&#8217;s only major daily newspaper <i>not<\/i> to run its own article devoted to Maliki and Obama sharing a withdrawal timetable. In other words, the WaPo&#8217;s recent coverage on this issue hasn&#8217;t been especially stellar. (The Post does have room today for the eighth chapter in its <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-srv\/metro\/specials\/chandra\/\">13-part series<\/a> on Chandra Levy&#8217;s murder seven years ago.)<\/p>\n<p>Today, the WaPo <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2008\/07\/20\/AR2008072001416.html?hpid=topnews\">did note<\/a> the Maliki government&#8217;s Obama-like position on withdrawal &#8212; but only to note that Dabbagh &#8220;would like U.S. troops to withdraw by the end of 2010 &#8212; eight months later than Obama&#8217;s proposal.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Got that? The campaign-changing event &#8212; the Maliki government&#8217;s support for Obama&#8217;s policy &#8212; is largely ignored, right up until the moment the Post emphasizes the notion that Maliki and Obama <i>disagree<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s more, it&#8217;s not even clear if the Post is right. Reuters&#8217; report noted that Dabbagh mentioned &#8220;the end of 2010&#8221; as &#8220;the appropriate time for the withdrawal.&#8221; The AP report quoted Dabbagh saying, &#8220;We are hoping that in 2010 that combat troops will withdraw from Iraq.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Which is right? At this point, it&#8217;s not at all clear. But in a sense, it doesn&#8217;t much matter &#8212; either way, the Iraqi government fundamentally rejects John McCain&#8217;s policy and either embraces Obama&#8217;s approach, or comes awfully close.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not saying that an eight-month difference is necessary trivial; it&#8217;s not. I am saying that McCain&#8217;s policy of an indefinite war followed by an indefinite presence that could last &#8220;100 years&#8221; is so far outside the realm of discussion here, it&#8217;s hard to take McCain&#8217;s policy seriously at all.<\/p>\n<p>For the WaPo to emphasize the minor-if-existent differences between Maliki and Obama seems to wildly miss the point of these developments.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Following up on an item from this morning, the AP ran a story noting that Ali al-Dabbagh, the spokesperson for the Maliki government in Iraq, endorsed the idea of a U.S. withdrawal &#8220;by 2010.&#8221; The timeframe, the AP noted, is &#8220;similar to Obama\u2019s proposal to pull back combat troops within 16 months.&#8221; The AP piece [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16308","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16308","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16308"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16308\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16308"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16308"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16308"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}