{"id":3354,"date":"2005-01-12T11:28:21","date_gmt":"2005-01-12T16:28:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/3354.html"},"modified":"2005-01-12T11:28:21","modified_gmt":"2005-01-12T16:28:21","slug":"bush-takes-a-swipe-at-secularists-jefferson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/bush-takes-a-swipe-at-secularists-jefferson\/","title":{"rendered":"Bush takes a swipe at secularists, Jefferson"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bush&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/0,,SB110540013749722107,00.html?mod=politics%5Fprimary%5Fhs\">first newspaper interview<\/a> since the election was earlier this week, with the conservative Wall Street Journal. His <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washtimes.com\/national\/20050111-101004-3771r.htm\">second newspaper interview<\/a> since the election was yesterday, with the even-more-conservative (and Moonie-owned) Washington Times. I think I&#8217;m starting to see a trend here.<\/p>\n<p>The Moonie interview, however, focused a great deal on Bush&#8217;s religious faith and his thoughts on the role of religion in government. Two remarks stood out. First up:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;I don&#8217;t see how you can be president at least from my perspective, how you can be president, without a relationship with the Lord,&#8221; [Bush] said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Call me overly traditional, but I suspect Thomas Jefferson, who <a href=\"http:\/\/www.quotationspage.com\/quote\/2820.html\">once implored<\/a> people to &#8220;question with boldness even the existence of a God,&#8221; might quibble with such an assertion.<\/p>\n<p>But then there was also this Bush gem:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I think people attack me because they are fearful that I will then say that you&#8217;re not equally as patriotic if you&#8217;re not a religious person,&#8221; Mr. Bush said. &#8220;I&#8217;ve never said that. I&#8217;ve never acted like that. I think that&#8217;s just the way it is.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s sometimes difficult to follow Bush&#8217;s sentence structure, so it&#8217;s hard to know what he was referring to with the final &#8220;that&#8217;s&#8221; in the last sentence. It sounds, however, like he&#8217;s saying if you&#8217;re not religious, you&#8217;re not equally patriotic and &#8220;that&#8217;s just the way it is.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>If that is what Bush was saying &#8212; and with this guy&#8217;s diction, it&#8217;s hard to know for sure &#8212; it&#8217;s something of a departure for him.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nIndeed, even I was surprised by the president&#8217;s respect for diversity of thought the day Kerry conceded the presidential election, when Bush <a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/news\/releases\/2004\/11\/20041104-5.html\">made it sound like<\/a> non-believers are no less American as everybody else.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;I will be your president regardless of your faith, and I don&#8217;t expect you to agree with me necessarily on religion. As a matter of fact, no president should ever try to impose religion on our society. A great &#8212; the great tradition of America is one where people can worship the way they want to worship. And if they choose not to worship, they&#8217;re just as patriotic as your neighbor.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s about as tolerant as Bush could be. Oddly enough, the comments stood in stark contrast to those of his more-secular father, who <a href=\"http:\/\/www.positiveatheism.org\/writ\/ghwbush.htm\">in 1987 said<\/a> that atheists should not be &#8220;considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s also what makes this President Bush&#8217;s comments to the Washington Times so odd.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bush&#8217;s first newspaper interview since the election was earlier this week, with the conservative Wall Street Journal. His second newspaper interview since the election was yesterday, with the even-more-conservative (and Moonie-owned) Washington Times. I think I&#8217;m starting to see a trend here. The Moonie interview, however, focused a great deal on Bush&#8217;s religious faith and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3354","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3354","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3354"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3354\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3354"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3354"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3354"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}