{"id":3615,"date":"2005-02-25T09:31:57","date_gmt":"2005-02-25T14:31:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/3615.html"},"modified":"2005-02-25T09:31:57","modified_gmt":"2005-02-25T14:31:57","slug":"those-unhelpful-08-polls","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/those-unhelpful-08-polls\/","title":{"rendered":"Those unhelpful &#8217;08 polls"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I see this morning that there&#8217;s a new Zogby poll (not yet online), conducted for a Democratic firm called WhatsNext Communications, on how Dem voters feel about prospective presidential candidates in 2008. <\/p>\n<p>The results were fairly unexpected considering the names included in the mix: Hillary Clinton led the field with 32% support, trailed by John Kerry with 16%, Al Gore with 12%, and John Edwards at 9%.<\/p>\n<p>This comes on the heels of a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/news\/polls\/tables\/live\/2005-02-07-poll-results.htm#2008\">Gallup poll<\/a> earlier this month, which offered similar results: Clinton 40%, Kerry 25%, Edwards 17%.<\/p>\n<p>It got me thinking: how did the polls look at this point four years ago, looking ahead to the 2004 race? Not surprisingly, voters&#8217; preferences so far in advance proved to be of little value at the time, which should give us a pretty big hint about how valuable these polls are now.<\/p>\n<p>Zogby, for example, did a poll shortly after the end of the 2000 race about Dem preferences for the next cycle. Only seven candidates were above 1%. Gore led with 36%, followed by Hillary at 18%, Bill Bradley at 7%, Dick Gephardt at 5%, Jesse Jackson at 5%, Bob Kerrey at 3%, and Joe Lieberman at 3%. In other words, the top four candidates from the 2004 cycle &#8212; Kerry, Edwards, Clark, and Dean &#8212; weren&#8217;t mentioned at all four years before they led the field.<\/p>\n<p>A Fox News poll shortly after the 2000 election offered similar results: Gore led with 31%, Hillary was right behind him at 30%, while Bradley and Gephardt barely broke into double digits. None of those four was a factor in the race, and three of them weren&#8217;t even candidates.<\/p>\n<p>My point is this: 2008 is a long way off. I&#8217;m as guilty as anyone of looking ahead to that race &#8212; the end of the Bush presidency will be an enjoyable day for us all &#8212; but before anyone takes these latest polls seriously, remember that they&#8217;re largely measuring name recognition. Many of the candidates who will likely play a major role in the next presidential race have not yet risen to national prominence, so these polls tell us almost nothing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I see this morning that there&#8217;s a new Zogby poll (not yet online), conducted for a Democratic firm called WhatsNext Communications, on how Dem voters feel about prospective presidential candidates in 2008. The results were fairly unexpected considering the names included in the mix: Hillary Clinton led the field with 32% support, trailed by John [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3615","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3615","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3615"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3615\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3615"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3615"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3615"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}