{"id":4157,"date":"2005-05-09T12:25:30","date_gmt":"2005-05-09T16:25:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/4157.html"},"modified":"2005-05-09T12:25:30","modified_gmt":"2005-05-09T16:25:30","slug":"what-the-latest-gop-talking-point-doesnt-tell-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/what-the-latest-gop-talking-point-doesnt-tell-you\/","title":{"rendered":"What the latest GOP talking point doesn&#8217;t tell you"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Word has clearly gone out to the conservative machine, because <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2005\/05\/08\/AR2005050800741.html\">this<\/a> is everywhere.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As the Senate returns from a week-long recess, Republicans are reminding everyone that four years ago today, President Bush nominated Priscilla R. Owen and Miguel A. Estrada to federal appellate courts. Neither received a Senate confirmation vote, Republicans note, because of Democratic filibusters.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But let&#8217;s flesh out what the talking point doesn&#8217;t tell you.<\/p>\n<p>First, it ignores some recent history, particularly in regards to Clinton&#8217;s judicial nominees.<\/p>\n<p>* Judge Richard Paez was nominated to the 9th Circuit of Appeals. He waited more than four years for a confirmation vote and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/3769.html\">faced a Republican filibuster<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>* Judge William Fletcher, another 9th Circuit nominee, waited four years for a confirmation vote.<\/p>\n<p>* Judge Helene White, a 6th Circuit nominee, didn&#8217;t even get so much as a <i>hearing<\/i> by Orrin Hatch for over three-and-a-half years.<\/p>\n<p>If Republicans want to whine about lengthy delays, they&#8217;ll have to get in line.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nSecond, the talking point itself doesn&#8217;t make a lot of sense. Miguel Estrada&#8217;s nomination is not pending in the Senate, so the fact that he was sent to the Senate for consideration four years ago is largely irrelevant.<\/p>\n<p>As for Owen, she, too, has not exactly been languishing, waiting for some word for the Senate. Lawmakers already considered her nomination and she wasn&#8217;t confirmed (thanks to a Dem filibuster). Bush sent her nomination to the chamber again, but the talking point suggests that her nomination has stood at a standstill for four years. That&#8217;s not the case.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, using the Clinton nominees as an example, Owen&#8217;s had it easy. Clinton nominees were given a White House nomination, followed by &#8230; absolutely nothing. Senate Republicans simply acted as if many of these nomination didn&#8217;t exist. They waited, some as long as four years, without any word at all about their fate. In some cases, Republicans wanted to run out the clock on Clinton&#8217;s presidency; in other cases, they didn&#8217;t even have an excuse.<\/p>\n<p>For all the GOP complaints of late, their whining doesn&#8217;t resonate because it&#8217;s drenched in so much hypocrisy. As Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crooksandliars.com\/2005\/05\/08.html#a2845\">said yesterday<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Republicans&#8217; hands aren&#8217;t clean on this either. What we did with Bill Clinton&#8217;s nominees &#8212; about 62 of them &#8212; we just didn&#8217;t give them votes in committee or we didn&#8217;t bring them up.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Exactly. When Dems have blocked 62 Bush nominees and allowed the vacancy rate on the federal judiciary to drop to frightening depths, <i>then<\/i> we can have a serious conversation about this.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Word has clearly gone out to the conservative machine, because this is everywhere. As the Senate returns from a week-long recess, Republicans are reminding everyone that four years ago today, President Bush nominated Priscilla R. Owen and Miguel A. Estrada to federal appellate courts. Neither received a Senate confirmation vote, Republicans note, because of Democratic [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4157","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4157","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4157"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4157\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4157"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4157"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4157"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}