{"id":4275,"date":"2005-05-24T08:57:02","date_gmt":"2005-05-24T12:57:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/4275.html"},"modified":"2005-05-24T08:57:02","modified_gmt":"2005-05-24T12:57:02","slug":"whats-the-deal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/whats-the-deal\/","title":{"rendered":"What&#8217;s the deal?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>OK, so is the &#8220;Group of 14&#8221; deal that thwarted the nuclear option a good one or not? Who wins? Who loses? Blogging doesn&#8217;t lend itself well to subtleties and unforeseen variables, but I think it&#8217;s fair to call <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2005\/05\/23\/AR2005052301970.html\">this arrangement<\/a> a &#8220;mixed bag.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>On the surface, Dems didn&#8217;t gain very much at all. They &#8220;won&#8221; something they already had: the ability to filibuster unqualified judicial nominees. In turn, Dems were forced to make a dramatic concession: three awful nominees &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.independentjudiciary.com\/nominees\/nominee.cfm?NomineeID=50\">Janice Rogers Brown<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.independentjudiciary.com\/nominees\/nominee.cfm?NomineeID=21\">Priscilla Owen<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.independentjudiciary.com\/nominees\/nominee.cfm?NomineeID=87\">Bill Pryor<\/a>, none of whom should have been nominated in the first place &#8212; have been cleared for confirmation votes. They&#8217;ll soon take their lifetime positions on the federal appeals bench, which is a genuine travesty. <\/p>\n<p>Making matters worse, Dems have pledged to use filibusters in the future only in &#8220;extraordinary circumstances.&#8221; The phrase not only is maddeningly ambiguous, it undercuts the (accurate) Dem position &#8212; we&#8217;ve <i>already<\/i> limited filibusters to &#8220;extraordinary circumstances.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And yet, here we are the morning after. The Dems are smiling, Bill Frist is dejected, and the right is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/news\/nationworld\/nation\/la-na-react24may24,1,4107194.story?coll=la-headlines-nation\">apoplectic<\/a>. This isn&#8217;t a &#8220;doth protest too much&#8221; situation; conservatives are filled with genuine rage because they&#8217;re convinced that they&#8217;ve suffered a horrible defeat and betrayal. Who&#8217;s right?<\/p>\n<p>Nearly all of this comes down to a simple question: who would have won the nuclear option floor vote. If you believe Dems would have won and maintained the pre-yesterday status quo, the deal is a disaster &#8212; three dreadful nominees that would have been blocked are moving forward, so the deal represents a real setback. If you believe Frist would have won today, the deal for Dems is a dramatic success story &#8212; instead of being left with nothing but frustration, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.independentjudiciary.com\/nominees\/nominee.cfm?NomineeID=56\">Henry Saad<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.independentjudiciary.com\/nominees\/nominee.cfm?NomineeID=76\">William Myers<\/a> are out, and the ability to filibuster future nominees, including Supreme Court nominees, is still on the table.<\/p>\n<p>So, who would have won the floor vote today? No one&#8217;s sure, but <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thehill.com\/thehill\/export\/TheHill\/News\/Frontpage\/052405\/specter.html\">The Hill reported<\/a> this morning that Arlen Specter communicated to GOP leaders that he was prepared to <em>support<\/em> the nuclear option. Without Specter&#8217;s vote, Dems would have found it almost impossible to get the six Republican defections needed to defeat the effort.<\/p>\n<p>Given this, yesterday&#8217;s deal could have been a whole lot worse.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>OK, so is the &#8220;Group of 14&#8221; deal that thwarted the nuclear option a good one or not? Who wins? Who loses? Blogging doesn&#8217;t lend itself well to subtleties and unforeseen variables, but I think it&#8217;s fair to call this arrangement a &#8220;mixed bag.&#8221; On the surface, Dems didn&#8217;t gain very much at all. 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