{"id":4477,"date":"2005-06-17T09:29:55","date_gmt":"2005-06-17T13:29:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/4477.html"},"modified":"2005-06-17T09:29:55","modified_gmt":"2005-06-17T13:29:55","slug":"it-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-last-throes-is","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/it-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-last-throes-is\/","title":{"rendered":"It depends on what the meaning of &#8216;last throes&#8217; is"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When Scott McClellan can&#8217;t defend Dick Cheney&#8217;s comments, you know the Bush gang is having trouble.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier this week, Cheney told CNN&#8217;s Larry King that the insurgency in Iraq is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/edition.cnn.com\/2005\/US\/05\/30\/cheney.iraq\/\">in the last throes<\/a>,&#8221; and insisted that violence in the country &#8220;will clearly decline.&#8221; It&#8217;s prompted some to suggest that the vice president is, unfortunately, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/opinion\/huffington\/2005\/06\/16\/iraq\/\">delusional<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>At yesterday&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/news\/releases\/2005\/06\/20050616-5.html\">press briefing<\/a>, ABC correspondent Terry Moran asked McClellan to explain what Cheney meant and why the nation should believe him. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.editorandpublisher.com\/eandp\/news\/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000963211\">It didn&#8217;t go well<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Q Scott, is the insurgency in Iraq in its &#8216;last throes&#8217;?<\/p>\n<p>McClellan: Terry, you have a desperate group of terrorists in Iraq that are doing everything they can to try to derail the transition to democracy. The Iraqi people have made it clear that they want a free and democratic and peaceful future. And that&#8217;s why we&#8217;re doing everything we can, along with other countries, to support the Iraqi people as they move forward\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.<\/p>\n<p>Q But the insurgency is in its last throes?<\/p>\n<p>McClellan: The Vice President talked about that the other day &#8212; you have a desperate group of terrorists who recognize how high the stakes are in Iraq. A free Iraq will be a significant blow to their ambitions.<\/p>\n<p>Q But they&#8217;re killing more Americans, they&#8217;re killing more Iraqis. That&#8217;s the last throes?<\/p>\n<p>McClellan: Innocent &#8212; I say innocent civilians. And it doesn&#8217;t take a lot of people to cause mass damage when you&#8217;re willing to strap a bomb onto yourself, get in a car and go and attack innocent civilians. That&#8217;s the kind of people that we&#8217;re dealing with. That&#8217;s what I say when we&#8217;re talking about a determined enemy.<\/p>\n<p>Q Right. What is the evidence that the insurgency is in its last throes?<\/p>\n<p>McClellan: I think I just explained to you the desperation of terrorists and their tactics.<\/p>\n<p>Q What&#8217;s the evidence on the ground that it&#8217;s being extinguished?<\/p>\n<p>McClellan: Terry, we&#8217;re making great progress to defeat the terrorist and regime elements. You&#8217;re seeing Iraqis now playing more of a role in addressing the security threats that they face. They&#8217;re working side by side with our coalition forces. They&#8217;re working on their own. There are a lot of special forces in Iraq that are taking the battle to the enemy in Iraq. And so this is a period when they are in a desperate mode.<\/p>\n<p>Q Well, I&#8217;m just wondering what the metric is for measuring the defeat of the insurgency.<\/p>\n<p>McClellan: Well, you can go back and look at the Vice President&#8217;s remarks. I think he talked about it.<\/p>\n<p>Q Yes. Is there any idea how long a &#8216;last throe&#8217; lasts for?<\/p>\n<p>McClellan: Go ahead, Steve&#8230;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Poor, Scott; it can&#8217;t be easy to defend the indefensible. I guess we should be glad he didn&#8217;t rely on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/003367.html\">the shtick he falls back<\/a> on when the questioning gets tough.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When Scott McClellan can&#8217;t defend Dick Cheney&#8217;s comments, you know the Bush gang is having trouble. Earlier this week, Cheney told CNN&#8217;s Larry King that the insurgency in Iraq is &#8220;in the last throes,&#8221; and insisted that violence in the country &#8220;will clearly decline.&#8221; It&#8217;s prompted some to suggest that the vice president is, unfortunately, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4477","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4477","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4477"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4477\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4477"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4477"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4477"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}