{"id":5009,"date":"2005-08-19T09:47:08","date_gmt":"2005-08-19T13:47:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/?p=5009"},"modified":"2005-08-19T09:47:08","modified_gmt":"2005-08-19T13:47:08","slug":"when-hagel-said-war-is-bigger-than-politics-he-wasnt-kidding","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/when-hagel-said-war-is-bigger-than-politics-he-wasnt-kidding\/","title":{"rendered":"When Hagel said &#8216;war is bigger than politics,&#8217; he wasn&#8217;t kidding"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Just a month ago, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2005\/07\/03\/magazine\/03QUESTIONS.html\">chatted<\/a> with the New York Times Sunday Magazine, shortly after <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usnews.com\/usnews\/news\/articles\/050627\/27bush.htm\">telling U.S. News<\/a> that the White House&#8217;s policies in Iraq are &#8220;completely disconnected from reality.&#8221; He added, &#8220;The reality is that we&#8217;re losing in Iraq.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The NYT gave Hagel a chance to reverse course, but he stood his ground. &#8220;If someone says I am a disloyal Republican because I am not supporting my party, let them say it,&#8221; Hagel <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2005\/07\/03\/magazine\/03QUESTIONS.html\">said<\/a>. &#8220;War is bigger than politics.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, Hagel <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/news?tmpl=story&#038;u=\/nm\/20050818\/ts_nm\/iraq_heartland_dc_1\">solidified his role<\/a> as the only Republican I can think of who&#8217;s making sense when it comes to Iraq.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hagel, a Vietnam veteran, acknowledged the U.S. military presence was becoming harder and harder to justify. He believes Iraq faces a serious danger of civil war that would threaten Middle East stability, and said there is little Washington can do to avert this.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We are seen as occupiers, we are targets. We have got to get out. I don&#8217;t think we can sustain our current policy, nor do I think we should,&#8221; he said at one stop.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That was at a local Nebraska event in which Hagel was speaking to a constituent. Would he say the same thing to a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crooksandliars.com\/2005\/08\/18.html#a4516\">national television audience<\/a>? <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2005\/POLITICS\/08\/18\/hagel.iraq\/index.html\">Yes<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska on Thursday said the United States is &#8220;getting more and more bogged down&#8221; in Iraq and stood by his comments that the White House is disconnected from reality and losing the war.<\/p>\n<p>The longer U.S. forces remain in Iraq, he said, the more it begins to resemble the Vietnam war.<\/p>\n<p>Hagel mocked Vice President Dick Cheney&#8217;s assertion in June that the insurgency in Iraq was in its &#8220;last throes,&#8221; saying the U.S. death toll has risen amid insurgent attacks.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Maybe the vice president can explain the increase in casualties we&#8217;re taking,&#8221; the Nebraskan told CNN. &#8220;If that&#8217;s winning, then he&#8217;s got a different definition of winning than I do.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Sounds to me like Hagel&#8217;s position &#8212; our current policy is untenable, we have to get out, Cheney&#8217;s insane &#8212; should be the Dems&#8217; position.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Just a month ago, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) chatted with the New York Times Sunday Magazine, shortly after telling U.S. News that the White House&#8217;s policies in Iraq are &#8220;completely disconnected from reality.&#8221; He added, &#8220;The reality is that we&#8217;re losing in Iraq.&#8221; The NYT gave Hagel a chance to reverse course, but he stood [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5009","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5009","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5009"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5009\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5009"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5009"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5009"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}