{"id":5798,"date":"2005-11-10T11:20:53","date_gmt":"2005-11-10T16:20:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/?p=5798"},"modified":"2005-11-10T11:20:53","modified_gmt":"2005-11-10T16:20:53","slug":"bush-threatens-veto-over-torture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/bush-threatens-veto-over-torture\/","title":{"rendered":"Bush threatens veto over torture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s been some debate &#8212; or at a minimum, ambiguity &#8212; over whether the president fully supports Dick Cheney&#8217;s efforts to protect the CIA&#8217;s ability to torture detainees. This week, a State Department official described Cheney&#8217;s camp as a &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2005\/11\/06\/AR2005110601281.html\">shrinking island<\/a>,&#8221; with key administration officials, including Condoleezza Rice and John Negroponte, opposing Cheney&#8217;s position. Even Scott McClellan <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/5785.html\">distanced himself<\/a> from Cheney&#8217;s lobbying efforts.<\/p>\n<p>So, where&#8217;s Bush in all of this? He&#8217;s in the Oval Office, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/news\/washington\/2005-11-09-abuse-ban_x.htm\">threatening a veto<\/a> and lobbying alongside Cheney.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As the House prepares to take up a proposed ban on abusive treatment of terrorism suspects, the Republican-led Congress appears headed toward a collision with President Bush.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a fight over treatment of prisoners by U.S. interrogators that pits Bush against usual allies, such as Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, and prominent veterans, such as Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.<\/p>\n<p>Bush is threatening to veto two major defense bills because they include an amendment to ban abusive treatment of detainees that the Senate has attached to both measures.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Congress may very well call his bluff. In the Senate, the torture ban was approved 90-9. In the House, Acting House Majority Leader Roy Blunt said Bush and Cheney have both lobbied House Republicans to oppose the anti-torture amendment, but Blunt <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/news\/washington\/2005-11-09-abuse-ban_x.htm\">told USA Today<\/a>, &#8220;It&#8217;s hard to imagine it wouldn&#8217;t get a lot of votes.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In fact, Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.), a Vietnam combat veteran who is backing the torture ban in the House, sounds optimistic.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The conservative Pennsylvania Democrat wrote in a letter to House colleagues that revelations about abuses of prisoners in U.S. custody are &#8220;degrading our society and its political and legal systems.&#8221; He says he has the votes &#8212; including some Republicans &#8212; to win House approval of McCain&#8217;s amendment.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Bush, of course, has not vetoed a single measure in five years. Would he dare use the veto pen for the first time in his presidency to support torture policies? Is he that far detached from reality?<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll find out soon.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s been some debate &#8212; or at a minimum, ambiguity &#8212; over whether the president fully supports Dick Cheney&#8217;s efforts to protect the CIA&#8217;s ability to torture detainees. This week, a State Department official described Cheney&#8217;s camp as a &#8220;shrinking island,&#8221; with key administration officials, including Condoleezza Rice and John Negroponte, opposing Cheney&#8217;s position. 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