{"id":6159,"date":"2005-12-22T15:43:00","date_gmt":"2005-12-22T20:43:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/?p=6159"},"modified":"2005-12-22T15:43:00","modified_gmt":"2005-12-22T20:43:00","slug":"the-oddities-of-the-i-word-discussion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/the-oddities-of-the-i-word-discussion\/","title":{"rendered":"The oddities of the &#8216;I-word&#8217; discussion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Putting aside the question over whether the president will or should be impeached, the media coverage of the &#8220;I word&#8221; discussion has been a little odd. It&#8217;s as if news outlets want to talk about it, but are afraid to, so they mention it with a certain detachment, essentially <a href=\"http:\/\/www.editorandpublisher.com\/eandp\/news\/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001736558\">discussing the discussion<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ron Hutcheson, White House correspondent for Knight Ridder Newspapers (known as &#8220;Hutch&#8221; to the president), observed that &#8220;some legal experts asserted that Bush broke the law on a scale that could warrant his impeachment.&#8221; Indeed such talk from legal experts was common in print or on cable news.<\/p>\n<p>Newsweek online noted a &#8220;chorus&#8221; of impeachment chat, and its Washington reporter, Howard Fineman, declared that Bush opponents are &#8220;calling him Nixon 2.0 and have already hauled forth no less an authority than John Dean to testify to the president&#8217;s dictatorial perfidy. The &#8216;I-word&#8217; is out there, and, I predict, you are going to hear more of it next year &#8212; much more.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Indeed, it&#8217;s everywhere. Just today, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/news\/feature\/2005\/12\/22\/impeach\/\">Salon had a big piece<\/a> on the issue and GW law prof Jonathan Turley had a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/printedition\/news\/20051222\/oplede22.art.htm\">USA Today op-ed<\/a> mentioning it, which comes the same week as two fairly high-profile Dem members of Congress <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/6132.html\">raised the specter<\/a> of the &#8220;I word&#8221; publicly. <a href=\"http:\/\/transcripts.cnn.com\/TRANSCRIPTS\/0512\/20\/sitroom.01.html\">CNN&#8217;s Jack Cafferty<\/a> has mentioned it, as has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/10536559\/site\/newsweek\/\">Newsweek&#8217;s Jonathan Alter<\/a>. Conservative scholars are even discussing the merit of impeachment <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2005\/12\/20\/conservative-scholars-argue-bush%e2%80%99s-wiretapping-is-an-impeachable-offense\/\">on NPR<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Media pollsters, however, won&#8217;t touch it. Why? Because, they say, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.editorandpublisher.com\/eandp\/news\/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001736558\">it&#8217;s not an issue of serious discussion<\/a>.<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A smattering of polls (some commissioned by partisan groups) has found considerable, if minority, support for impeachment. But Frank Newport, the director of the Gallup Poll, told E&#038;P recently that he would only run a poll on the subject if the idea really started to gain mainstream political traction, and not until then. [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>When Washington Post pollster Richard Morin finally answered the &#8220;I&#8221; question in his online chat, he said, &#8220;We do not ask about impeachment because it is not a serious option or a topic of considered discussion &#8212; witness the fact that no member of congressional Democratic leadership or any of the serious Democratic presidential candidates in &#8217;08 are calling for Bush&#8217;s impeachment. When it is or they are, we will ask about it in our polls.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I disagree with this approach, but I have to admit, I find it fascinating.<\/p>\n<p>The comments from the Gallup pollster, in particular, are striking. In order for them to poll on the issue, it would have to &#8220;gain mainstream political traction,&#8221; which it might if Gallup fielded a poll on the issue. It&#8217;s circular reasoning at its most irritating.<\/p>\n<p>Lawmakers are talking about impeachment, as are reporters, scholars, and activists. And if media professionals used <a href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/items\/200512100004#20051220\">Clinton-era standards<\/a>, pollsters would not only be discussing it, but we&#8217;d know the extent to which the public is too.<\/p>\n<p>Like it or not, as <a href=\"http:\/\/digbysblog.blogspot.com\/2005_12_18_digbysblog_archive.html#113523196773309374\">Digby noted<\/a>, impeachment &#8220;is on the table.&#8221; There doesn&#8217;t seem to be much point in pretending otherwise.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Putting aside the question over whether the president will or should be impeached, the media coverage of the &#8220;I word&#8221; discussion has been a little odd. It&#8217;s as if news outlets want to talk about it, but are afraid to, so they mention it with a certain detachment, essentially discussing the discussion. 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