{"id":6258,"date":"2006-01-05T13:51:53","date_gmt":"2006-01-05T18:51:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/?p=6258"},"modified":"2006-01-05T13:51:53","modified_gmt":"2006-01-05T18:51:53","slug":"indiana-lawmakers-figure-out-how-to-pray","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/indiana-lawmakers-figure-out-how-to-pray\/","title":{"rendered":"Indiana lawmakers figure out how to pray"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On Monday, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/6228.html\">I noted<\/a> an unusual church-state showdown in the Indiana legislature. Yesterday, state lawmakers managed to figure out that they could pray without violating the First Amendment and without ignoring a court order.<\/p>\n<p>To briefly summarize for those just joining us, the Indiana legislature has been hosting official, evangelistic prayer sessions &#8220;in Jesus&#8217; name&#8221; to start off legislative sessions, much to the consternation of religious minorities, non-believers, and anyone who takes church-state separation seriously. A federal judge recently ruled that the practice was unconstitutional, but several lawmakers suggested that they would <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2005\/12\/31\/AR2005123100723.html\">ignore a court order<\/a> and allow state-sponsored prayers in the legislature when members returned this week.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, there was some question as to what might happen. As it turns out, lawmakers <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indystar.com\/apps\/pbcs.dll\/article?AID=\/20060105\/NEWS02\/601050426\">weren&#8217;t quite as anxious<\/a> to take on a federal court order as they seemed.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Republican House leaders made it clear Wednesday they don&#8217;t agree with a judge&#8217;s ban on prayers that invoke the name of Jesus Christ during their proceedings. But, led by House Speaker Brian C. Bosma, they decided to forgo the 189-year tradition of invocations &#8212; at least for now &#8212; and opted instead to have a free-spirited prayer huddle in the back of the House chamber minutes before the opening gavel.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re taking a stand. We&#8217;re making a statement,&#8221; Bosma said. &#8220;But within the bounds of the court order.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m not exactly sure why someone would want to turn worship into some kind of political protest, but putting that aside, do you know what&#8217;s wrong with lawmakers getting together to pray before doing the people&#8217;s business? Not a thing. As Fran Quigley, executive director of the Indiana Civil Liberties Union, whose lawsuit against Bosma prompted the court order, said, &#8220;They&#8217;re expressing their faith in a way that&#8217;s not given the trappings of government speech, so I think it&#8217;s constitutionally appropriate.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>One of the lawmakers who participated in the prayer session said a prayer is a prayer and &#8220;God&#8217;s going to hear it the same way.&#8221; If more believers accepted this, they wouldn&#8217;t fight so hard for government to promote their prayers through official actions.<\/p>\n<p>As for state Rep. David Orentlicher (D), the legislature&#8217;s only Jewish member, he said lawmakers &#8220;should be paying more attention to vital issues such as health care and tax policy and less to the prayer controversy.&#8221; What a concept.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On Monday, I noted an unusual church-state showdown in the Indiana legislature. Yesterday, state lawmakers managed to figure out that they could pray without violating the First Amendment and without ignoring a court order. To briefly summarize for those just joining us, the Indiana legislature has been hosting official, evangelistic prayer sessions &#8220;in Jesus&#8217; name&#8221; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6258","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6258","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6258"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6258\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6258"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6258"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6258"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}