{"id":7475,"date":"2006-05-22T11:12:04","date_gmt":"2006-05-22T15:12:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/?p=7475"},"modified":"2006-05-22T11:12:04","modified_gmt":"2006-05-22T15:12:04","slug":"tens-of-thousands-of-americans-had-had-their-calls-monitored-in-one-way-or-the-other","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/tens-of-thousands-of-americans-had-had-their-calls-monitored-in-one-way-or-the-other\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;Tens of thousands of Americans had had their calls monitored in one way or the other&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Since USA Today broke word about a massive [tag]NSA[\/tag] [tag]database[\/tag] that catalogs most of the nation&#8217;s [tag]domestic[\/tag] [tag]phone calls[\/tag], one of the principal defenses for the program is that officials aren&#8217;t [tag]listen[\/tag]ing to Americans&#8217; conversations, just tracking who calls whom. The administration <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonmonthly.com\/archives\/individual\/2006_05\/008830.php\"><i>could<\/i><\/a> [tag]eavesdrop[\/tag], the [tag]Bush[\/tag] gang argues, but it&#8217;s decided that <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/ap\/20060521\/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe\/prosecuting_reporters;_ylt=An6JZygniRod2FjCpqYF08OyFz4D;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA\">it won&#8217;t<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Today, the New Yorker&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/talk\/content\/articles\/060529ta_talk_hersh\">[tag]Seymour Hersh[\/tag] adds<\/a> some pertinent details to this. He spoke with two people who worked on the NSA call-tracking program who said, at least early on, the agency didn&#8217;t listen in on Americans calls, and felt no need to get a [tag]warrant[\/tag] because &#8220;there&#8217;s no personal identifier involved, other than the metadata from a call being placed.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That didn&#8217;t last.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;After you hit something, you have to figure out what to do with it,&#8221; the Administration intelligence official told me. The next step, theoretically, could have been to get a suspect&#8217;s name and go to the FISA court for a warrant to listen in. One problem, however, was the volume and the ambiguity of the data that had already been generated. (&#8220;There&#8217;s too many calls and not enough judges in the world,&#8221; the former senior intelligence official said.) <b>The agency would also have had to reveal how far it had gone, and how many Americans were involved. And there was a risk that the court could shut down the program<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, the N.S.A. began, in some cases, to <b>eavesdrop on [tag]callers[\/tag]<\/b> (often using computers to listen for key words) or to investigate them using traditional police methods. A government consultant told me that tens of thousands of Americans had had their calls monitored in one way or the other. &#8220;In the old days, you needed probable cause to listen in,&#8221; the consultant explained. &#8220;But you could not listen in to generate probable cause. What they&#8217;re doing is a violation of the spirit of the law.&#8221; One C.I.A. officer told me that the Administration, by not approaching the [tag]FISA[\/tag] [tag]court[\/tag] early on, had made it much harder to go to the court later. (emphasis added)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Marc Rotenberg, the executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, told Hersh, &#8220;The N.S.A. had a lot of latitude under FISA to get the data it needed. I think the White House purposefully ignored the [tag]law[\/tag], because the [tag]President[\/tag] did not want to do the monitoring under FISA. There is a strong commitment inside the intelligence community to obey the law, and the community is getting dragged into the mud on this.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Stay tuned.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Since USA Today broke word about a massive [tag]NSA[\/tag] [tag]database[\/tag] that catalogs most of the nation&#8217;s [tag]domestic[\/tag] [tag]phone calls[\/tag], one of the principal defenses for the program is that officials aren&#8217;t [tag]listen[\/tag]ing to Americans&#8217; conversations, just tracking who calls whom. The administration could [tag]eavesdrop[\/tag], the [tag]Bush[\/tag] gang argues, but it&#8217;s decided that it won&#8217;t. Today, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7475","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7475","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7475"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7475\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7475"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7475"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7475"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}