{"id":7644,"date":"2006-06-09T14:07:49","date_gmt":"2006-06-09T18:07:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/?p=7644"},"modified":"2006-06-09T14:07:49","modified_gmt":"2006-06-09T18:07:49","slug":"what-the-flag-burning-amendment-and-hate-crime-laws-have-in-common","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/what-the-flag-burning-amendment-and-hate-crime-laws-have-in-common\/","title":{"rendered":"What the flag-burning amendment and hate-crime laws have in common"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When the right criticizes [tag]hate-crime[\/tag] proposals, the main argument seems to be opposition to punishing one&#8217;s thoughts. As the argument goes, judge the conduct, not the motivation for the conduct.<\/p>\n<p>With this in mind, I&#8217;ve been wondering what these same people might say about the [tag]flag-burning[\/tag] [tag]amendment[\/tag] that&#8217;s supposed to come up for a vote in the Senate next week. Though I suspect proponents would deny it, the measure seems to be aimed, not at those who burn the [tag]American[\/tag] [tag]flag[\/tag], but at those who burn the American flag for the wrong reasons.<\/p>\n<p>About a year ago, I was doing some research on flag &#8220;desecration&#8221; and found <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wwmt.com\/engine.pl?station=wwmt&#038;id=17189&#038;template=breakout_local.html\">dozens<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/archive.dailyitem.com\/archive\/2005\/0615\/local\/stories\/10local.htm\">of<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.islandpacket.com\/news\/briefs\/story\/4944876p-4524272c.html\">examples<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.roanoke.com\/news\/roanoke\/wb\/xp-24566\">across<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wnep.com\/Global\/story.asp?S=3473665\">the<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thevillagesdailysun.com\/articles\/2005\/06\/15\/news\/news02.txt\">country<\/a> of veterans&#8217; groups, American Legion volunteers, and Boy Scouts holding public flag-burning ceremonies. In Hazelton, Pa., Tom Kostick, commander of AMVETS Post 253, helped collect thousands of flags for a mass burning and set up a mailbox in front of the VFW building where veterans can donate flags for the ceremony. &#8220;It&#8217;s the only proper way to it,&#8221; Kostick said. &#8220;We like to let people know the proper way to dispose of them.&#8221; Look at the men in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailynews.cc\/articles\/2005\/06\/15\/news\/news01.txt\">this picture<\/a>. They&#8217;re all [tag]burning[\/tag] American flags.<\/p>\n<p>Now, obviously, these aren&#8217;t the kinds of incidents Orrin Hatch and nearly the entire Senate GOP caucus are worried about. I suspect supporters of the amendment would argue that these public ceremonies are different because the people involved love the United States and were honoring the flag by burning it.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, the argument is &#8220;good&#8221; people can burn the flag, but &#8220;bad&#8221; people should be prohibited from doing so, through a constitutional amendment if necessary. People who burn the flag out of reverence should be encouraged, but those who do so in protest should be prosecuted. It&#8217;s not how you act; it&#8217;s what you&#8217;re <i>thinking<\/i> while you act.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t imagine Hatch or anyone else wants to punish patriotic Americans who burn the flag for all the right reasons, but I&#8217;m yet to figure out how the law is supposed to draw the distinction between the respectful and the insolent.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When the right criticizes [tag]hate-crime[\/tag] proposals, the main argument seems to be opposition to punishing one&#8217;s thoughts. As the argument goes, judge the conduct, not the motivation for the conduct. With this in mind, I&#8217;ve been wondering what these same people might say about the [tag]flag-burning[\/tag] [tag]amendment[\/tag] that&#8217;s supposed to come up for a vote [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7644","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7644","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7644"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7644\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7644"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7644"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7644"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}