{"id":7719,"date":"2006-06-19T09:44:01","date_gmt":"2006-06-19T13:44:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/?p=7719"},"modified":"2006-06-19T09:44:01","modified_gmt":"2006-06-19T13:44:01","slug":"murtha-responds-to-rove","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/murtha-responds-to-rove\/","title":{"rendered":"Murtha responds to Rove"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>TNR&#8217;s Michael Crowley <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tnr.com\/doc.mhtml?i=20060626&#038;s=crowley062606\">recently noted<\/a> the odd relationship between Rep. [tag]Jack Murtha[\/tag] (D-Pa.) and his progressive friends. Noting Murtha&#8217;s generally center\/right approach to several policy issues, Crowley understandably calls the congressman an &#8220;unlikely liberal [tag]hero[\/tag].&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But to understand how and why progressive blogs and a blue-collar &#8220;hawk&#8221; from Pennsylvania get along so well, consider <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crooksandliars.com\/2006\/06\/18.html#a8760\">Murtha&#8217;s appearance<\/a> on [tag]Meet the Press[\/tag] yesterday. [tag]Tim Russert[\/tag] showed Murtha a speech [tag]Karl Rove[\/tag] delivered last week in New Hampshire, in which Rove said Dems believe in &#8220;cutting and running.&#8221; The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/7677.html\">draft dodger<\/a> added that Dems &#8220;may be with you at the first shots, but they are not going to be there for the last tough battles.&#8221; Murtha <a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/13296235\/\">responded<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;He&#8217;s, he&#8217;s in New Hampshire. He&#8217;s making a political speech. He&#8217;s sitting in his air conditioned office with his [tag]big, fat backside[\/tag], saying, &#8216;[tag]Stay the course[\/tag].&#8217; That&#8217;s not a plan. I mean, this guy &#8212; I don&#8217;t know what his military experience is, but that&#8217;s a political statement. This is a policy difference between me and the White House. I disagree completely with what he&#8217;s saying.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Now, let&#8217;s, let&#8217;s &#8212; give me, give you an example. When we went to Beirut, I, I said to President Reagan, &#8216;Get out.&#8217; Now, the other day we were doing a debate, and they said, &#8216;Well, Beirut was a different situation. We cut and run.&#8217; We didn&#8217;t cut and run. President Reagan made the decision to change direction because he knew he couldn&#8217;t win it. Even in Somalia, President Clinton made the decision, &#8216;We have to, we have to change direction.&#8217; Even with tax cuts. When we had a tax cut under Reagan, we then had a tax increase because he had to change direction. We need to change direction. We can&#8217;t win a war like this.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This guy&#8217;s sitting back there criticizing &#8212; political criticism, getting paid by the public taxpayer, and he&#8217;s saying to us, &#8216;We&#8217;re, we&#8217;re winning this war, and they&#8217;re running.&#8217; We got to change direction, that&#8217;s what we have to do. You can&#8217;t, you can&#8217;t sit there in the air conditioned office and tell these troops they&#8217;re carrying 70 pounds on their back inside these armored vessels and hit with IEDs every day, seeing their friends blown up, their buddies blown up, and he says &#8216;stay the course.&#8217; Yeah, it&#8217;s easy to say that from Washington, D.C.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I mention this for a couple of reasons. One, watching Murtha blast Rove for &#8220;sitting in his air conditioned office with his big, fat backside&#8221; made me smile. Two, and far more importantly, Murtha is highlighting the fact that the Democratic base frequently responds more to <em>tone<\/em> than policy positions. Activists and many progressive bloggers are more than willing to put aside issue differences they have with Murtha because he doesn&#8217;t take any nonsense from the administration and will not suffer fools kindly. He&#8217;s willing to go on Meet the Press and say what many of us are thinking.<\/p>\n<p>Murtha&#8217;s voting record may make him an &#8220;unlikely liberal hero,&#8221; but his willingness to stand up and say what needs to be said about this war should make the admiration so many on the left have for [tag]Murtha[\/tag] easy to understand.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>TNR&#8217;s Michael Crowley recently noted the odd relationship between Rep. [tag]Jack Murtha[\/tag] (D-Pa.) and his progressive friends. Noting Murtha&#8217;s generally center\/right approach to several policy issues, Crowley understandably calls the congressman an &#8220;unlikely liberal [tag]hero[\/tag].&#8221; But to understand how and why progressive blogs and a blue-collar &#8220;hawk&#8221; from Pennsylvania get along so well, consider Murtha&#8217;s [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7719","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7719","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7719"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7719\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7719"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7719"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7719"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}