{"id":7829,"date":"2006-07-02T09:12:33","date_gmt":"2006-07-02T13:12:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/7829.html"},"modified":"2006-07-02T09:12:33","modified_gmt":"2006-07-02T13:12:33","slug":"sunday-discussion-group-56","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/sunday-discussion-group-56\/","title":{"rendered":"Sunday Discussion Group"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We had a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com\/archives\/7803.html\">fruitful discussion<\/a> the other day about <a href=\"http:\/\/obama.senate.gov\/speech\/060628-call_to_renewal_keynote_address\/index.html\">Sen. Barack Obama&#8217;s speech<\/a> to &#8220;Call to Renewal,&#8221; but considering that some, including the WaPo&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2006\/06\/29\/AR2006062901778.html\">E. J. Dionne Jr.<\/a>, believe Obama&#8217;s remarks &#8220;may be the most important pronouncement by a Democrat on faith and politics since John F. Kennedy&#8217;s Houston speech in 1960 declaring his independence from the Vatican,&#8221; it&#8217;s probably worth taking another moment to consider what the senator had to say &#8212; and question whether or not his broader points have merit.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2006\/06\/28\/AR2006062800281.html\">AP account<\/a> of Obama&#8217;s remarks was, upon further reflection, not entirely helpful. It took a few sentences from a <a href=\"http:\/\/obama.senate.gov\/speech\/060628-call_to_renewal_keynote_address\/index.html\">4,600-word speech<\/a> to suggest that Obama railed against the Democratic Party and liberals everywhere for anti-religion animus.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve read and re-read the speech several times, and while I believe Obama erred in repeating a few too many conservative narratives\/myths, it hardly seems reasonable to characterize his remarks as an &#8220;attack&#8221; on progressives. It was, in many ways, a liberal speech &#8212; he defended the separation of church and state, he said a pro-choice policy on reproductive rights is a practical necessity in a pluralistic democracy, and he said a Democratic message that emphasizes lifting up the least fortune is entirely consistent with evangelical Christian values.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, Obama&#8217;s most candid denunciations were directed at conservatives &#8212; for trying to base public policy on Scripture, for using faith as a political wedge, for misguided adherence to biblical literalism, and for the movement&#8217;s cynical exploitation of people of faith. The AP report overlooked these points altogether.<\/p>\n<p>That said, most of the criticism I&#8217;ve seen &#8212; from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mydd.com\/story\/2006\/6\/28\/132718\/681\">Chris Bowers<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/michelle-goldberg\/whats-the-matter-with-ba_b_24133.html\">Michelle Goldberg<\/a>, in particular &#8212; takes Obama to task, fairly, for repeating &#8220;Republican propaganda as fact&#8221; and suggesting matter-of-factly that Dems have a religion problem.<\/p>\n<p>With this in mind, here are some points to ponder:<\/p>\n<p>* <em>Does<\/em> the left have a religion problem?<\/p>\n<p>* If so, what should progressives do about it, if anything?<\/p>\n<p>* Should Dems reach out to evangelicals? Or is outreach a waste of time?<\/p>\n<p>* Can progressive secularists and progressive theists work cooperatively under a Democratic &#8220;big tent&#8221;?\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We had a fruitful discussion the other day about Sen. Barack Obama&#8217;s speech to &#8220;Call to Renewal,&#8221; but considering that some, including the WaPo&#8217;s E. J. Dionne Jr., believe Obama&#8217;s remarks &#8220;may be the most important pronouncement by a Democrat on faith and politics since John F. Kennedy&#8217;s Houston speech in 1960 declaring his independence [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[617],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7829","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7829","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7829"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7829\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7829"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7829"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevebenen.com\/thecarpetbaggerreport\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7829"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}