‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ revisited

In just a couple of minutes, Rep. [tag]Marty Meehan[/tag] (D-Mass.) is going to hold a press conference to unveil legislation to repeal the military’s “[tag]Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell[/tag]” ban on gay soldiers in the military.

The first U.S. Marine seriously wounded in Iraq, Staff Sgt. Eric Alva, lost his leg when he stepped on a land mine, but today he and his prosthetic leg will march right into one of the most contentious battles in American politics.

Alva will stand with Rep. Marty Meehan, D-Mass., as a bipartisan group of Congress members introduces legislation to overturn the ban on openly gay and lesbian troops serving in the military.

Alva says that losing his leg forced him out of the closet. “It made me realize everything that I had to actually speak up for,” Alva said to ABC News in an exclusive TV interview, “basically the rights and privileges of what I, as an individual, have earned in this country.”

I’m looking forward to hearing how many conservatives step up to tell Marine Sgt. Alva that he had no business joining the U.S. military. That somehow, his sacrifice was in vain because he shouldn’t have been allowed to wear a uniform.

Now, we’ve covered this on more than a few occasions lately, so I won’t rehash the same arguments again, but there’s one angle worth considering in more detail: bipartisan support.

USA Today reports:

The measure had 122 co-sponsors last year but died in the Republican-controlled Congress. Now that Democrats are in charge, Meehan plans to hold hearings as early as April. He says the bill has more than 100 original co-sponsors and seven freshmen.

Three Republicans have signed on, including Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida. She says her husband, Dexter, was cared for by a lesbian nurse when he was injured during combat in Vietnam.

It’s funny how personal experiences change Republicans, isn’t it? Dick Cheney is to the right of Attila the Hun, but because his daughter is a lesbian, he’s fairly progressive on gay issues. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen is reliably conservative, but because her husband had a lesbian nurse during Vietnam, she’s willing to let gays serve in the military.

Given this, it seems the key to progress in Washington is getting Republicans some first-hand understanding of today’s policy debates. If GOP lawmakers were asked to live on the minimum wage, they might support an increase. If they had to go without health insurance, maybe they’d consider universal coverage. If they served in the military, perhaps they’d be less likely to cut veterans’ health care.

Nevertheless, I’m cautiously optimistic that Meehan’s proposal might garner serious consideration. Polls of servicemen and women, as well as civilians, show waning opposition to gays serving in the military. That, coupled by the need for volunteers during the war, should at least give the bill a shot.

And on a related note, I half-expected cries of outrage from the right to coincide with Meehan’s announcement, but even conservatives seem largely unfazed by the news that more than 100 House members are serious about repealing “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”

I’m sure their knee-jerk demagoguery will kick in sooner or later, but for the time being, it’s refreshing.

it seems the key to progress in Washington is getting Republicans some first-hand understanding of today’s policy debates.

I wish that was true. Sam “Nuke ‘Em” Johnson spent years in a North Vietnamese prison but he’s the biggest cheerleader for today’s version of the Vietnam War.

  • Iranian political analyst مجید گودرزی [Majid Gudarzi], on IRINN:
    “Jews are genetically bloodthirsty and criminal.”

    This Purim custom is a way of letting our fellows know that we are celebrating the survival and continuity of the Jewish people and a way of expressing our love of our neighbors.
    And what better treat to deliver on this occasion than a plate of “Haman’s Ears”?http://www.rabbishmuel.com/files/jew…r-Analysis.doc

  • “It’s funny how personal experiences change Republicans, isn’t it?”

    Republicans are very good at demonizing and dehumanizing those they oppose and creating blanket hatred for entire groups simply because of an identifying marker. Hence why the poor, blacks, immigrants, Muslims, Democrats, liberals, bloggers, gays, Californians, New Englanders, the French and so many more others are all given a scarlet letter by the right wing.

    And that’s a strong indicator of why righties hate the Constitution because the “all men are created equal” phrase doesn’t serve there political and rhetorical interests well. And why personal experiences haunt right wingers so much becuase they suddenly realize that these formerly demonized beings are in fact people too.

  • McCain didn’t learn much during his war experience it seems.

    Does this mean you can’t get out of the draft by acting gay anymore?

  • I wish Meehan and his bill well. After all these years it remains hard to describe the betrayal I felt when Clinton bent over for Sam Nunn. He promised over and over during the campaign that an executive order integrating the military would be his first act as President. Instead it was “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”. I’ve supported, but hated, Bill Clinton ever since.

  • And Pat Robertson declaring that this man’s losing his leg, is God punishing him for his filthy sodomite ways, in 3,2,1…..

  • As for “personal experience,” that is all up to the individual.
    Strom Thurmond sure didn’t stand up for the rights of some of his offspring.

  • Isn’t it ironic that probably the most homophobic members of the armed forces that gays are likely to encounter will be those let in due to relaxed standards on intelligence tests and prior criminal records? You know, the types the military would need less of if they accept qualified gays!

  • My perpetual pet peeve – Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is the DoD’s policy to implement an act of congress. Congress is not repealing the policy, they’re repealing the law that mandates the policy. And high time, too.

  • “It’s funny how personal experiences change Republicans, isn’t it?”

    Probably true for humans across the board — although little less bigotry facilitates those experiences.

  • “You don’t have to be straight to be in the miltary, you just have to shoot straight.”

    “The big thing is to make this country, along with every other country in the world with a few exceptions, quit discriminating against people just because they’re gay, you don’t have to agree with it, but they have a constitutional right to be gay. And that’s what brings me into it.”

    Both quotes from Barry Goldwater who could be said to have started the conservative change and is now rolling in his grave since the religious right has taken over his Republican party.

    You’d be surprised how many politically conservative agree with getting rid of this law.

  • Good Luck Mr. Meehan. It would be nice if the U.S. entered the 20th Century before the 21st ended.

    It’s funny how personal experiences change Republicans, isn’t it?

    Don’t forget Rock Hudson. It took his death to shake Ron n’ Nancy out of their “Who Cares about AIDS?” mindset.

    Dick Cheney is to the right of Attila the Hun, but because his daughter is a lesbian, he’s fairly progressive on gay issues.

    CB, I must call bullshit. Have we forgotten the 2004 election so soon? I’ll grant the man seems to love his daughter, but snarling when ever anyone raises the issue of his flaming idiocy (and hypocrisy) regarding gay people doesn’t make him progressive. It makes him a huge diseased dick.

  • But don’t you see? Letting gay guys serve in the military is wrong because it makes the straight guys uncomfortable when they shower, sort of like showering with fat women – or something –

    mmm … fat women showering …. oooohhhh

  • A couple of choice quotes I remembered:

    “Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?”
    -Ernest Gaines

    “They gave me a medal for killing a man, and a discharge for loving one.”
    -Sargeant Leonard Matlovich

  • From the CB archives:

    A new poll reveals that 73% of military members say they are comfortable around lesbians and gays. And 23% say they know an active duty soldier in their unit who is lesbian or gay…. More than half — 55% — of the troops who know a gay peer said the presence of gays or lesbians in their unit is well known by others. […]

    But then again, you can’t trust the people actually wearing the uniform to decide who’s the best person to serve alongside them.

  • Conservative triage–First we’ll take mother rapers and father stabbers into the military to fill up the ranks.. and then we’ll take gays, if we have to. Then maybe pigs and weasels. Guess they can’t persecute they way they like AND prosecute the wars they love.

  • […] Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida. She says her husband, Dexter, was cared for by a lesbian nurse […]

    Um… Years ago, when I went to visit my ex-boyfriend in DC, that’s pretty much what I told my (then) fiance; “no need to get upset, he’s ‘that way’, not at all interested in girls “. Saved a lot of hassle.

  • Related to another CB post, I wonder if the military will just shift DADT: Don’t Ask why the conditions at Walter Reed are so crummy, Don’t Tell reporters about it.

    They can say it is part of their recycling program.

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