Subpoenas on hold (temporarily), negotiations continue

With the House and Senate Judiciary Committees already having authorized subpoenas for White House officials in the prosecutor purge scandal, it’s worth noting that we’re not quite at the brink yet.

[M]embers of Congress said they would not issue any subpoenas for at least a week, a move that allows time for negotiations in what had become a rapidly escalating constitutional showdown.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) said he would wait until Thursday at the earliest to make a decision on subpoenas.

“Let’s not rush into this,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters, noting that the chamber would adjourn next week for spring recess. “When we get back from our break, a decision will have to be made” on whether to issue subpoenas to Rove and others.

Depending on one’s perspective, the good news is, loose negotiations appear to be already underway. The bad news is, the wrong people appear to be doing the talking. Negotiations reportedly began yesterday between White House Counsel Fred Fielding and the Senate Judiciary Committee’s top Republican, Sen. Arlen Specter. Since Dems are in control perhaps Fielding might want to chat with Leahy? Even if Specter and the White House counsel’s office reached some kind of agreement, Dems may reject it out of hand.

Indeed, Specter made an offer to Fielding that Dems would likely refuse — public hearings with transcriptions, but no oath and a set limit of senators who could ask questions. (I get the sense the oath is a deal-breaker for Dems; Specter should know better.)

The rhetoric seems to have cooled a bit — Tony Snow told reporters that “phone lines are open” — but the Dems’ positions have not. House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers (D-Mich.) told Fielding that House Dems “remain committed to seeking a cooperative resolution” … and added, “In the meantime, we also ask that you ensure the preservation of relevant White House documents.”

In other purge-related news from the last 12 hours:

* Michael Kinsley, who really should know better, seems hopelessly confused about the basic facts of the controversy.

* Why were so many conservatives repeating the silly “Clinton did it, too” argument the last two weeks? Because it was part of the official Justice Department talking-points memo, written to respond to the scandal.

* Mark Kleiman raises a good question: “Karl Rove has already spoken in public, denying that politics had a role in the purge. How can he claim a privilege against speaking about the same matters under oath before the Congress? Does he contend that his false statements at Republican fund-raisers don’t violate the privilege, but his true statements to Congress would?”

* The WaPo has an interesting front-page item detailing the behind-the-scenes machinations in replacing Bud Cummins with Tim Griffin, a Rove protege in Arkansas. Apparently, Griffin lobbied fairly aggressively for the job. “This was a very loyal soldier to the Republicans and the Bush administration, and they wanted to reward him,” said Sen. Mark Pryor (D-Ark.). “They had every right to do this, but it’s the way they handled it, and the way they tried to cover their tracks and mislead Congress, that has turned this into a fiasco for them.”

* The NYT reports that Margaret Chiara, the purged prosecutor from Michigan, is pushing back against the Bush administration’s narrative.

The ousted United States attorney in western Michigan said Thursday that she was told last November that she was being forced out to make way for another lawyer the Bush administration wanted to groom, not because of management problems.

The federal prosecutor, Margaret M. Chiara, 63, speaking publicly for the first time since leaving office last Friday, said in an interview that a senior Justice Department official had told her that her resignation was necessary to create a slot for “an individual they wanted to advance.” The identity of the likely replacement was not disclosed, she said.

Only after Justice Department officials attributed her firing to poor performance as a manager — even though her 2005 evaluation praised her management skills — did she decide to speak out, Ms. Chiara said.

“To say it was about politics may not be pleasant, but at least it is truthful,” she said, echoing an e-mail message she sent to a Justice Department official this month. “Poor performance was not a truthful explanation.”

* And finally, Tony Snow may now believe Congress has no oversight responsibilities when it comes to the White House, but as recently as October, he had a very different approach: “Members of Congress have their own oversight obligations. They may proceed as they wish. They’re a separate and co-equal branch of government and I’m not going to tell them what they can and can’t do.”

They realize the GOP isn’t in the majority, right? At some point, they just may have to actually pick up the phone and call Leahy.

  • I know that they aren’t anxious to jump into a confrontation that’s likely to lead to a constitutional crisis, but I don’t see the point of dithering. Eventually it will come down to whether or not they’ve got the balls to impeach, and that isn’t going to change in the next week.

    I think we’ve had enough of the likes of Specter and Kinsley, who seem superficially capable of reasoning with but who, when the chips are down, end up opposing us just as much as the hardliners. Neither deserves anything but contempt at this point.

  • Start up an oil company – oh, it went belly up. Join the National Guard to serve our country – oh, leave without even a goodbye to work on a Republicans senate bid and then leave forever to pursue an MBA. Get a chance to buy into a professional baseball team – oh, get bought out when it’s clear mismanagement was afoot. And, finally, get a ruling from the Supreme Court, (inwhich the duck hunting buddy of Cheney resides), to ascend to the presidency of the USA – oh, and in 6 short years bring crisis and loss of confidence to our bodypolitik. What a wonderful life one Mr. George W. Bush has had – always getting what he wants, mucking it up as he bumbles over reality, and getting others to clean up his mess. And what a fine mess this president has gotten us into!

    This current showdown between Congress and the WH is just another episode in As the Bush Turns. I think it time to begin the removal from office process for our unbeloved WH residents. -Kevo

  • Check out John Dean at findlaw: he bets it’s not Rove’s testimony they’re sweating as much as Miers’. (On the way to that, he unpacks BushCo’s misreading of the “unitary executive” and that theory’s relationship to executive privilege. Good stuff.)

  • I’ve decided that the phrase “constitutional showdown” is annoying. There are times when such a description is valid — that is, when there’s unresolved ambiguity in the Constitution; the Civil War or Watergate would both probably qualify — but using it here gives the administration undeserved credit. What is the question? Does anyone seriously think that Congress really doesn’t have any oversight ability or responsibility at all? Or that executive privilege extends to members of the administration (not even the executive himself) lying under oath about why they fired someone? Or grants immunity from charges of obstructing justice? This is not a constitutional showdown; the only question is how many Bush loyalists will need to fall on their swords. Or will be allowed to.

    Patterico has stopped carrying water for the administration, and when the defense attorney is tired of looking like an idiot in the course of arguing that his client isn’t really a criminal, something has been wrong for quite a while. Or as a friend of mine likes to say — slightly out of context, but it’s so good it’s always worth repeating — the wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead.

  • As others have said, what part of “so help me God” has them so damn nervous?

    Heh, says the atheist.

    Anyone who trusts Specter to get a reasonable deal is an idiot, but let’s let him see what he can get. When he comes back with the “best” deal he can get, we can point out how the Republicans would NEVER have given that deal to Clinton.

    It’s nice to see the criminals sweating, the longer they sweat the more likely that one will break ranks and spill beans.

  • From the John Dean article (thanks, lotus),

    “you show me a White House aide who does not want his conversations and advice to the president revealed, and I will show you someone who should not be talking with or advising a president.”

    My thoughts exactly. Rove doesn’t want anyone to know he uses the F-word when he talks to Bush?

  • I think we’ve had enough of the likes of Specter and Kinsley, who seem superficially capable of reasoning with but who, when the chips are down, end up opposing us just as much as the hardliners. Neither deserves anything but contempt at this point.

    Comment by jimBOB — @ 9:14 am

    Well stated and done so much more civilly than I would have been able to.

  • 2Manchu – you struck a chord.

    The other day after Bushie made his “announcement” I had visions of Rove in the Oval Office telling Bushie that he needed to oppose the subpoenas. Rove was pumping up the Clueless Cowboy by calling the Dems “mother f-er’s” and saying “shit” alot.

  • I wonder in part if the hesitancy in letting Rove speak is a lesson learned from the McCarthy era. McCarthy sounded impressive on paper, but he really imploded once he appeared on television and the general public got a really good look at what a foul bully he was.

    Rove primarily talks publicly to friendly audiences – is there a realization somewhere that an extended public view of Rove would be devastating to his (and the administration’s) reputation?

    Cockroaches, of course, run for the shadows when you turn the lights on.

  • Rove also had no problem commenting on Carol Lam I think, and her problems with immigration cases as being the reason she had to go.

    The only deal I would agree to is Karl Rove publicly testifying under oath (there is just way too much in the public record to show rove has already commented publicly on these things AND to show that Rove has not even been honest with his own people on other topics), and maybe letting Miers not be under oath as she does not have the reputation or history that Rove has.

  • I was living overseas during the Nixon debacle though I tuned in via shortwave and was aware it was taking a frustratingly long time to dump the felon. Question: did it seem as absurd then as the current mess does, to the point where one doubts the sanity of the media and of Congress for letting the administration get away with so much for so long?

  • Thank you, Lotus, for the link to John Dean’s article at http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070323.html

    John Dean argues very persuasively that White House resistance to congressional oversight & subpoenas, etc., stems from their desire for a very strong presidency (the “unitary executive”, which as far as I can tell appears to be a new euphemism for fascism). I would add to Dean’s interpretation that the neocons actively want to create a dysfunctional, bankrupted, broken government that will be unable to raise taxes or fund or organize social programs and which won’t be trusted by the public to do anything.

    What I don’t get is why the proponents of the unitary executive model are still pushing for strong presidential powers, given the likelihood of a shift to a Democratic president after Bush. As much as the neocons might like an omnipotent republican president, they would surely detest a democratic presidency that is even half that strong. I don’t think the Neocons are unable to plan for the future, and I can’t imagine that they are deluded enough to be sure that they will win a fair post-Bush presidential election. That leads to the nightmare-inducing tinfoil-hat conclusion that they aren’t planning on letting go of control for very long, if at all.

    Thus, we’ve got to prevail in re-establishing the rule of law. This is not a nicety, but a matter of dire national necessity.

  • I can understand White House resistance to testifying under oath, but the objection to a transcript is downright bizarre. I guess they know that a false statement in a transcript means they will eventually have to testify under oath anyway. It’ll just take longer.

  • Another thought:

    I wonder how WH balking on testifying is going over with the public. Not so long ago, when Bush had to go see Patrick Fitzgerald, the fact that he had to go with his mommy (Cheney) was overlooked. People may be paying more attention now.

  • Michael Kinsley has never been other than proof that the left is as fully capable of producing a brain-dead member of the booboisie as is the right. Why anyone pays any attention to this semi-literate halfwit is beyond me. But then people still think The New Republic(an) is more than toilet paper substitute and must be taken “seriously.” Is there any pundit in America who would not be living in a box under a freeway overpass if they didn’t have the “job” they do?

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