Gonzales speaks

[tag]Attorney General[/tag] [tag]Alberto Gonzales[/tag] has been furiously working behind the scenes to shore up enough support to keep his job, but he hasn’t answered reporters’ questions since a press conference two weeks ago in which he claimed to be out of the loop. Yesterday, Gonzales endured an [tag]interview[/tag], this time with NBC’s Pete Williams.

If this was an effort to set the record straight and stop the political bleeding, Gonzales might as well have not bothered. The AG couldn’t figure out how to clear one simple hurdle: explaining how he knows for certain that he fired these U.S. Attorneys for proper reasons and, at the same time, does not know for certain why these U.S. Attorneys were fired.

Gonzales: I depended on the people who knew about how those United States attorneys — were performing — people within the department — who — who would have personal knowledge of — about these individuals, who would have, based upon their experience, would know what — what would be the appropriate standards that a United States attorney should be asked to — to achieve.

Williams: Given that, then how can you be certain that none of these U.S. attorneys were put on that list for improper reasons?

Gonzales: What I can say is this: I know the reasons why I asked you — these United States attorneys to leave. And it — it was not for improper reasons. It was not to interfere with the public corruption case. It was not for partisan reasons.

Don’t blame Gonzales, he just works there.

Gonzales recently wrote a USA Today op-ed in which he insisted these prosecutors had “lost [his] confidence.” Common sense dictates that the Attorney General didn’t have confidence in these U.S. Attorneys he fired because he knew something about them. Not so, Gonzales said last night; he relied on others to tell him which prosecutors needed to be fired in an unprecedented mid-term purge, and he just signed the paperwork.

This is apparently supposed to increase confidence in the Attorney General’s strength as the nation’s chief law enforcement officer.

NBC’s Pete Williams kept pushing for an explanation, but Gonzales was stuck.

Williams: To put this question another way — if you didn’t review their performance during this process, then how can you be certain that they were fired for performance reasons?

Gonzales: I — I’ve given — I’ve given the answer to the question, Pete. I know — I know the reasons why I made the decision. Again, there’s nothing in the documents to support the allegation that there was anything improper here. And there is an internal — department review to answer that question, to reassure the — the American people that there was nothing improper that happened here.

Therein lies a hint of a shift in the explanation. Gonzales knows why he signed off on these firings; someone stuck a piece of paper in front of him. But he doesn’t know why others picked those prosecutors for dismissal.

Gonzales: If I find out that, in fact, any of these decisions were motivated, the recommendations to me were motivated for improper reasons to interfere with the public corruption case, there will be swift and — there will be swift and decisive action. I can assure you that.

Williams: Meaning people would be fired?

Gonzales: Absolutely. Because there is no place for that. Our prosecutors have to — there has to be no question about the integrity, the professionalism, undue influence of prosecutions in connection with public corruption kind — kinds of cases. And if I find out that any of that occurred here involving the Department of Justice officials, yes, they will be removed.

Indeed, Gonzales was raising the specter of all kinds of new revelations. Maybe the prosecutors were fired for improper reasons (though he was ignorant the whole time). Maybe he was involved in discussions (which he doesn’t remember). Maybe the president did lean on him about three different U.S. Attorneys (though he initially said it was just one).

Michael Froomkin asks, “Leaving aside the rather dubious credibility of the claim that Gonzales is this clueless and dumb, can we afford an AG whose defense against charges of unethical and probably criminal activity is … blithering ignorance?”

Remember, that’s not an attack on Gonzales, that’s Gonzales’ defense, intended to reassure the nation about his qualifications to head the Justice Department.

I’m actually rather impressed with Pete – who would have guessed, among all of the moussed and mealy-mouthed BushCo stenographers in the MSM, that it would be a former Cheney staffer and Bush 41 Defense Dept spokesman who would actually stick with the tough questions to embarass on of Bush 43’s cabinet members?

  • My favorite part was when he said he would have OPR and the IG look into it and report that nothing improper happened – and here I thought OPR and IG investigated – Gonzales might as well have said the whitewash report would be out shortly.

    It was also OPR that reported that there was nothing improper in the government’s actions in the tobacco case.

    What we really need is a revival of the Independent Prosecutor statute.

  • Folks who follow such things have been saying for a long time that Gonzales was in over his head as AG. What’s interesting is how quickly and convincingly he has proven his critics correct. All it took was the demand for a little accountability and the man unraveled.

  • What we really need is a revival of the Independent Prosecutor statute.

    There were many complaints about that statute back when it was in force, not least of which was the way it became a republican playground for torturing Clinton administration staff through endless investigation of trivia, not to mention a way to provide unreviewable eternal patronage jobs (see the investigations of Mike Espy and Henry Cisneros). This aside from the travesty of Ken Starr’s Whitewater probe.

    Now that the statue is gone, however, the GOP has given us a series of object lessons in why it was first put in place. We probably need to try again to write something to do what the old statue did, without leaving itself open to the abuse that happened under the earlier version.

  • What a fucking moron.

    Remember, media slacktards, this is the same brilliant legal mind who told us with such assurance that Bush’s warrantless wiretaps were legal, that habeus corpus was optional, that torture was not being done, and that Geneva Convention protections are “quaint”.

    Dems: Impeach this stooge NOW.

  • ***Gonzales speaks***

    “Woof! Woof!”

    Sit, Abu. Sit. Good dog.

    Gonzo wants to keep his job? Fine. Investigate Rove, Fielding, and Miers, then bring us their heads on a silver platter—with apples in their mouths, and a generous supply of poi and toast on the side. (NOW watch how fast “Queen George-toria” throws his AG under the bus)…..

  • 800 ton paisley elephant wearing sunglasses and flipflops? I don’t see no 500 ton paisley elephant wearing sunglasses and flipflops.

    And even if I were to find a large paisley trunk covered with sunscreen up my butt, I still don’t believe I have ever or will ever see an 800 ton paisley elephant wearing sunglasses and flipflops.

    May I go now?

  • With Sincerest Apologies to Smokey Robinson
    Sung to Tears of a Clown

    Now if there’s a smile on my face
    It’s only there trying to fool the public
    But when it comes down to fooling you
    Now Congress that’s quite a different subject

    But don’t let my smug expression
    Give you the wrong impression
    Cos really I’m bad, Oh I’m badder than bad
    Well I’m hurt and my old lies are so sad
    As a clown I appear to be glad ooh yeah

    Well they’re some sad things known to man
    But ain’t too much sadder than
    The lies of a clown when there’s press around
    Oh yeah, baby baby, oh yeah baby baby

    Now if I appear to be blamefree
    It’s only to camouflage my vileness
    And honey to shield my ass try
    To cover this mess with a show of smugness
    Please let my Public Relations surge
    Show I’m ignorant of the purge
    Cos I need a pass, oh I need a pass
    Look I’m scum but I want you to know
    For jefe Bush, I put on a show …

    Well they’re some sad things known to man
    But ain’t too much sadder than
    The lies of a clown when there’s press around
    Oh yeah, baby baby, oh yeah baby baby

    Just like Abramhof did
    I try to keep my vileness hid
    Smiling to the public I try
    But in a news room I lie
    The lies of a clown
    When there’s press around, oh yeah, baby baby
    Now if there’s a smile on my face
    Don’t let my smug expression
    Give you the wrong impression
    Don’t let this smile I wear
    Make you think that I don’t care
    Cos really I’m scum…

  • I think there’s a kernel of truth to what Alberto says. He probably was out of the loop on the initial decision making to push out the attorneys and merely did what he was told to do. The lie stems from where the direction to fire the USAs originated.

    Who Monica Goodling is trying to protect or hide from by taking the fifth will be the interesting part. Is she scared of having to implicate Alberto as the source of the direction within the DOJ to fire the USAs or does she know it ultimately came from a higher source such as Karl Rove?

  • 1) Isn’t Gonzo in charge of the Justice Department? SHouldn’t he be able to determine who made the decision to fire these people, point them toward the Capitol and demand theyr explain themselves? How hard would that be? Then we fire him for being an ninny.

    2) jimBOB – I think you are correct but I also think we really need Ken Starr. If he is so good and all the Clintonian butts he sniffed were justified, and he was truely non-partisan, then he is the man. He can definately figure out this White House.

  • Ken Starr himself? – No. Starr spent too much time leaking and talking to the media and making a spectacle out ot the whole thing.

    An independent prosecutor in the mold of Pat Fitzgerald? Absolutely. Someone who actually respects confidentiality and won’t make a three-ring circus out it – someone who accords the investigation the serious attitude it requires.

  • None of this, of course, made it onto this morning’s TODAY show, where the snippets from the interview were entirely sympathetic to the Attorney General.

  • I’m pretty sure Gonzales left the decisions to the generals in the field.

    The Bushies invented the blame game or the don’t-blame-me game.

  • Like the “S” in “Harry S Truman” the “R” in “Alberto R Gonzales” doesn’t stand for anything, so it shouldn’t be graced with period (“.”). Now if we could only find a way to keep our Justice Department from being disgraced by Gonzales.

    While was looking around the ‘net to find out what the “R” might stand for I found “Like the WMDs, Gonzo’s middle name does not exist.” And “… this secrecy about his middle name is something of a lifelong fetish for Mr. Gonzales. No wonder he fits right in at the Bush White House.” And “The only Gonzales born in Bexar County, Texas, on the same birthdate is Alberto R. – – no middle name, just an initial.”

  • Ken Starr, aside from being a blatant partisan, never actually found anything against the Clintons during the Whitewater segment of his investigation. If the GOP hadn’t, through pure luck, managed to turn up Monica, Starr’s whole effort would have bounced off the Clinton administration without effect.

    Also, bear in mind that Starr’s methods ruined the lives of lots of innocent people in Arkansas, and put Susan McDougal in prison for nothing. Starr is not someone who should ever held up as anything other than an example of republican malevolence.

  • #13 Don’t blame the Today Show – that’s a truly useful show that decided last week to bring on the best person to explain the prosecutor purge – yes, you guessed it, Tom Delay…

    /snark

  • George Bush’s Houseboy just doesn’t know what to do without Ol’ Massa leading him around by the nose. The “House n****r” stereotype isn’t just limited to African-Americans. Look at any non-white in the Republican Party and that’s what you’re looking at.

  • Ohioan,

    The Today Show? If you don’t mind a bit of intentional mis-spelling, you could do a classic flip-flop with the D and the A—and call it “The Toady Show.”

    Works for me….

  • Embedded in AG AG’s babbling is the frame that I believe is the fall back position for Bu$hCo:

    Gonzales: What I can say is this: I know the reasons why I asked you — these United States attorneys to leave. And it — it was not for improper reasons. It was not to interfere with the public corruption case.

    Gonzales: If I find out that, in fact, any of these decisions were motivated, the recommendations to me were motivated for improper reasons to interfere with the public corruption case , there will be swift and — there will be swift and decisive action. I can assure you that.

    Gonzales: Absolutely. Because there is no place for that. Our prosecutors have to — there has to be no question about the integrity, the professionalism, undue influence of prosecutions in connection with public corruption kind — kinds of cases . And if I find out that any of that occurred here involving the Department of Justice officials, yes, they will be removed

    I think Bu$hCo thinks that it can minimize damage framing “interference with prosecuting public corruption,” which IMO implies efforts to derail cases in progress as opposed to consolidating power in the Whitehouse political operations to direct future actions to impact elections through more subtle means. I think electoral manipulation is the part of this story that leads back to Rove. And I believe that only Bush and Cheney themselves would be protected by more smoke screens and barricades than Rove.

    The AG can point to national corruption cases (Abramoff and Cunningham) that have gone forward on his watch. If he and Darrell Issa can convince the public that Carol Lam was more interested in taking down Top Gun than closing her border to those infernal illegal aliens, maybe the public thinks the smoke is not indicative of fire. Charles Krauthammer floated a balloon of what constitutes an offense in this matter, and it was very similar to the repeated stammerings of Alberto GONzales in his interview w/NBC.

  • Gonzo is in Chicago today doing a photo op with Patrick Fitzgerald. Sort of a “see, I didn’t fire this one…and he prosecuted a Repub”. Only problem is, the media keeps reporting it as “Patrick Fitzgerald, who received a poor review from the Justice Dept.” Ooops.

    Maybe he should just hand the keys to the dept. to Fitz and exit stage right.

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