Senate will not ‘support sustaining a flawed and failing policy’

Following up on yesterday’s item, the [tag]Senate[/tag] took up a measure to remove a [tag]withdrawal[/tag] timetable from the spending package that pays for the [tag]war[/tag] in [tag]Iraq[/tag]. As recently as a few days ago, [tag]Republicans[/tag] appeared confident that they had the votes. They didn’t.

Senate Democrats scored a surprise victory yesterday in their bid to force President Bush to end the Iraq war, turning back a Republican amendment that would have struck a troop withdrawal plan from emergency military funding legislation.

The defection of a prominent Republican war critic, Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, sealed the Democrats’ win. Hagel, who opposed identical withdrawal language two weeks ago, walked onto the Senate floor an hour before the late-afternoon vote and announced that he would “not support sustaining a flawed and failing policy,” adding: “It’s now time for the Congress to step forward and establish responsible boundaries and conditions for our continued military involvement in Iraq.”

Democratic leaders think the 50 to 48 victory greatly strengthens their negotiating position as they prepare to face down a White House that yesterday reiterated its threat of a presidential [tag]veto[/tag]. The Senate vote was also the first time since Democrats took control of Congress in January that a majority of lawmakers have supported binding legislation to bring U.S. troops home.

I appreciate that there’s some general impatience with Congress, particularly since the election, and its inability to take a firm stand against the president’s misguided war policy. We hear the legitimate explanations — the Democratic majority is too narrow, congressional Dems are divided amongst themselves, too few Republicans will listen to reason — but wonder when something substantive is going to happen.

Yesterday, it did. The House and Senate, after extensive behind-the-scenes work, are sending the White House an unmistakable message: Bush doesn’t get a blank check and he doesn’t get an open-ended war.

The WaPo described this as a “surprise” win for Dems, and to a real extent, it was. Just two weeks ago, the Senate considered a similar measure with withdrawal language and Dems came up several votes short. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ken.), as recently as Monday morning, told reporters that he expected a similar outcome.

But a few changes of heart mattered a great deal. The full roll-call vote list is here, but Sen. [tag]Chuck Hagel[/tag] (R-Neb.) deserves kudos for his vote for a change. For months, if not years, he’d talk tough on the Sunday morning talk-shows, but on the floor, Hagel has voted, albeit reluctantly, with his caucus. This time, he and Sen. Gordon Smith (R-Ore.) actually followed-through on their commitments and took a stand against the president’s policy. It’s about time.

As for the big picture, yesterday’s victory gives Democratic leaders leverage in negotiating with the White House.

Speaking to reporters, House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) was conciliatory, but only to a point: “We ought to reach out to the president and say, ‘Mr. President, this is not a unilateral government. It is a separation of powers, and the Congress of the United States . . . has taken some action. You obviously disagree with that. Where are the areas of compromise?’ ”

Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.) said he was skeptical about proceeding too quickly. “Of course, we should reach out to the White House, and I’m happy to do that,” he said. But, he added: “They have been very uncooperative to this point. Hopefully, they will cooperate with us.” Referring to the president, he said, “I would like to have a bill that he wouldn’t veto.”

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said, “When it comes to the war in Iraq, the American people have spoken, the House and Senate have spoken. Now, we hope the president is listening.”

It would be out of character for him, but we can hope. At this point, it’s a debate he’s losing. Badly.

Begrudgingly it seems, our political leaders are beginning to see us common Americans with our brooms in hand. Like we’ve been saying since November 7th, 2006, it’s cleaning time. It’s good to see the Honorable Senator from Nebraska has now taken up a mop. I only hope more will follow, and quickly, as this WH has already circled up their hairball wagons. -Kevo

  • Kudos to Democratic senator Mark Pryor from Arkansas for bravely standing with George Bush… In addition to the honor of having the lowest IQ in the Senate, this new feather in his cap will be remembered by AK Dems for years to come…

  • MoveOn, VoteVets, etc. should start ads today highlighting the cowardly votes of Coleman, Sununu, and Susan Collins. Once again, they have put loyalty to the President over loyalty the troops who are stuck in this quagmire.

  • I seem to recall polls showing public approval of Congress improved after Dems took over Congressinal majorities, but has declined since because the Senate, in particular, has not accomplished as much as the public had hoped. Yet, I’d guess no more than 20 percent of the public knows how slim the majority is in the Senate, the effect of a 60-vote cloture rule, or how Lieberman factors into the mix. In other words, public expectations are likely to have been unrealistically high.

    That said, Reid’s statement struck me as wimpy and something out of the last Congress. Instead of, “I would like to have a bill that he wouldn’t veto,” wouldn’t it have been better to say, ‘The president should reconsider his stated intent to veto a bill that the Congess and American people support, and not attempt to thwart the bill’s intent by issuing a signing statement.”

  • Good politics is setting an agenda and bringing certain votes that will allow certain key members of the opposing party the proper atmosphere to feel like they can safely flip-flop on a topic of utmost importance. I think the Dems have done this and should continue to do this–they are doing a great job of massaging the message and political atmosphere to allow those who strongly supported the war and the president to step across the line and start supporting the troops and opposing the current conduct of the war. It would be nice to be able to get the troops out of this mess tomorrow, but the Dems are doing a good job of working this to a conclusion under the circumstances.

  • Reid should also have added that “the Congress is sending a bill to President Bush that fully funds the war, the troops and our vets, which is more than the president asked for. Only the president is to blame if he chooses to cut the funding to ther troops by vetoing this legislation.”

  • @kevo

    I think that’s more like torches and pitchforks.

    I think we also need to remind everyone we cab that it’s only been 3 MONTHS, that’s pretty impressive if you ask me, seeing where we were coming from 6 months ago.

    A lot is happening all at once, Iran, USAGate, NSAGate, it’s hard to keep it all straight what is most pressing.

  • So the missing and non-party votes were:

    Joe Lieberman (I-CT) voted with (R)
    Tim Johnson (D-SD) Did Not Vote
    Mark Pryor (D-AR) voted with (R)

    Chuck Hagel (R-NE) voted with (D)
    Gordon Smith (R-OR) voted with (D)
    Mike Enzi (R-WY) Did Not Vote

    Anyone know why Mike Enzi didn’t vote?

    Lieberman’s vote was expected, and obviously Johnson isn’t currently able to participate. I don’t follow AR politics much, anybody know if Pryor’s vote was expected ahead of time or if it was a surprise?

    Kudos to Hagel and Smith. Why is Hagel getting all the credit? Was Smiths vote expected ahead of time?

    Why didn’t Enzi vote? Was he not there? Where was he?

  • So Bush’s choice right now is to veto or sign the bill that authorizes spending for Iraq on the condition that the troops are removed later.

    I strongly suspect that Bush will sign, write a signing statement saying he doesn’t have to remove troops from Iraq before he wants to (and by the way, thanks for the money!) and then later refuses to remove the troops as mandated by this bill, which becomes law when Bush signs it. And in 2008, Democrats win because Bush will have tainted the GOP so badly. In 2009, Bush leaves Washington and we leave Iraq. Bush gets away with all his lawbreaking scot-free, with who knows what kind of irreversible damage to the fundamental rule of law in this country.

    But what if Bush vetos the bill? He doesn’t get the money at all. Will Congress attempt to write another bill to fund the war?

  • This is really cutting into Bush’s base. At a discussion group for a hobby I am a participant in – a hobby with more than its share of far right halfwits (to the point where I sometimes ask myself how I could have anything, any little thing, in common with these idiots, even this hobby), in a discussion thread about the USS George HW Bush, some moron asked how long it would be till the next new aircraft carrier would be named the USS George W. Bush. A flame war immediately erupted, led by several of the leading “conservative” lights at that board, that George W. Bush should be run out of office, that no ship should ever be named for him, and they should never have re-elected him. And the amazing thing to me was, there was no pushback to this.

    The wheels are turning.

  • Tom… Perhaps you could suggest that the next warship to be scuttled at sea could be renamed for the Dubya just prior to going down?

  • Listening to His Imperial Petulance tantruming away to the true believers and comparing himself to Eisenhower invading Europe or Lincoln fighting the Civil War, being hamstrung by Congressional decision making (I guess there must be a mileage range in which they’re allowed to do this, since he believes if American commanders are 6,000 miles away they should be left to their own devices), I wanted to say “stop your temper tantrum Georgie or you’re going to have to go to your room without supper.”

    Forget whether he’s the worst President ever, he’s the worst piece of shit to ever live in America.

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