Poor Dick just can’t help himself

Fact-checking a Dick [tag]Cheney[/tag] interview with Rush [tag]Limbaugh[/tag] is an almost impossible task. The errors of fact and/or judgment occur so frequently, it’s hard to keep up.

But try we must. The embattled Vice President chatted once again with radio’s most notorious demagogue and offered the kind of doozies that only Cheney can provide. For example, nearly five years later, the VP still wants Americans to believe al Qaeda was active in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.

“[R]emember Abu Musab al Zarqawi, a Jordanian terrorist, al Qaeda affiliate; ran a training camp in Afghanistan for al Qaeda, then migrated — after we went into Afghanistan and shut him down there, he went to Baghdad, took up residence there before we ever launched into Iraq; organized the al Qaeda operations inside Iraq before we even arrived on the scene, and then, of course, led the charge for Iraq until we killed him last June. He’s the guy who arranged the bombing of the Samarra Mosque that precipitated the sectarian violence between Shia and Sunni. This is al Qaeda operating in Iraq. And as I say, they were present before we invaded Iraq.”

Ironically, almost the exact time Cheney was repeating nonsense that was debunked years ago, the Defense Department’s Inspector General was inadvertently making Cheney look ridiculous.

Captured Iraqi documents and intelligence interrogations of Saddam Hussein and two former aides “all confirmed” that Hussein’s regime was not directly cooperating with al-Qaeda before the U.S. invasion of Iraq, according to a declassified Defense Department report released yesterday.

As for Zarqawi, before our invasion, he wasn’t a member of al Qaeda; was a rival to bin Laden. And at the time, Zarqawi wasn’t in Iraq with Saddam’s blessing; he was operating in a part of Iraq that wasn’t under Saddam’s control. (The Senate Intelligence Committee found that Saddam “attempted, unsuccessfully, to locate and capture Zarqawi and that the regime did not have a relationship with, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi.”

If Cheney were capable of feeling shame, now would be a good time for it.

Of course, the VP was just getting started.

Cheney went on to argue that we have to stay in Iraq or our allies in the Middle East will be unhappy.

“We’ve got Musharraf in Pakistan and Karzai in Afghanistan who put their lives on the line every day, in effect, supporting our efforts to deal with the extremists and the terrorists in that part of world. If they see us bail out in Iraq, they clearly would lose confidence in our capacity to carry through and get the job done.”

Nonsense. Both Musharraf and Karzai have said publicly that they’d much prefer to see our presence in Iraq curtailed. Maybe Cheney missed the memo.

On a related note, Cheney argued it would be “very tough” to assemble allies if, in Limbaugh’s words, they think “we might just pull out in the middle of the whole thing before it’s complete.” Here’s a counter-idea: how tough will it be to assemble allies to fight by our side now?

The VP went on to argue that downplaying the “war on terror” phrase is “flawed thinking,” and Dems who prefer more precise language are “just dead wrong.” Maybe Cheney should tell the president, who has taken the opposite position.

Cheney lashed out at Speaker Pelosi, calling her trip to Syria “bad behavior,” for reasons that have already been shown to be fraudulent. He lashed out Senate Dems for “Stalinist” tactics against U.S. Ambassador to Belgium-designate Sam Fox, despite the fact that Fox’s nomination was pulled before it could even came up for a vote.

Ultimately, the whole interview was an exercise in mendacity, with Limbaugh asking absurd questions, and Cheney responding with dishonest answers. It’s probably long past the point in which this matters, but here’s a side-question that gets lost in shuffle: why is the Vice President even appearing on Limbaugh’s show in the first place?

We obviously know the answer — right-wing VP, right-wing host, right-wing audience — but we are talking about a hateful drug addict who mocks Parkinson’s patients and has a history of racism. But that doesn’t stop Cheney from being Rush’s buddy.

It’s a reminder — there is nothing a conservative can say or do to be removed from the Republican mainstream.

If you haven’t seen it, check out Joe Klein’s editorial in Time Magazine. Off the topic of Cheney, but well worth the read:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1607243,00.html

  • The truth:

    “Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf has said that the US’ invasion of Iraq had hurt America’s interests badly in the Muslim world.

    This is perhaps the first time that Musharraf, whom the US considers as its most important ally in the war against global terrorism, has criticised the US-led war on Iraq directly.

    The war on Iraq continued to be condemned by the Muslim world, thereby hurting US interests more, the New York Times quoted Musharraf as saying in an interview on Tuesday.”

    ANI – Sep 2004
    http://in.news.yahoo.com/040922/139/2g7o8.html

  • CB – a valiant effort but you could have saved yourself a lot of time by putting up a transcript of the interview and just, line by line, saying, “….uh, no.”

  • @Alibubba

    My god, they’ve lost Joe Klein! /end of sarcasm. Too bad ole Joe was too busy with his head up his ass due to hoping things will work out. I guess the initial problems in Iraq and Katrina were too minor for him to figure it out.

    Ah Cheney. Someday Karma will get that deluded fuck and it will not be pretty. My only hope is to see it live on national TV.

    Ode To Cheney
    Instant Karma’s gonna get you
    Gonna take all your power
    You better get yourself together
    Pretty soon you’re impeached
    What in the world you thinking of
    Laughing in the face of fact
    What on hell you tryin’ to do
    Invade Iraq, well fuck you

    Instant Karma’s gonna get you
    Like a pal you shot right in the face
    Better get yourself together Cheney
    Put you in your place (jail)
    How in the world you gonna see
    Laughin’ at fools like me
    Who in the hell d’you think you are
    An emperor?
    How wrong you are!!!

    Well we all move on
    With the facts and the stats and the law
    Well we all move on
    Ev’ryone come on

    Instant Karma’s gonna get you
    Gonna take money you’ve bled
    Better recognize your lies
    Ev’rything you said
    Why in the world are you here
    Surely to spread pain and fear
    Only five missed chances
    To see a war
    Come and get your share

    Well we all move on
    With the facts and the stats and the law
    Well we all move on
    Move on and on and on on on
    Yeah yeah, alright, uh huh, ah

    Well we all move on
    With the facts and the stats and the law
    Yeah we all move on
    On and on and on on and on

    Well we all move on
    With the facts and the stats and the law
    Well we all move on
    With the facts and the stats and the law
    Well we all move on
    With the facts and the stats and the law
    Well we all move on
    With the facts and the stats and the law

  • ***…a Dick Cheney interview with Rush Limbaugh….****

    So—dead wood…and more dead wood. We’ve got the makings of a bonfire. Quick—someboby loan me a match. A Bic lighter. Heck—just gimme two sticks to rub together….

  • I can see that the next edition of Merriam-Webster is going to have be modified a little.

    Main Entry: men·dac·i·ty
    Pronunciation: men-‘da-s&-tE
    Function: noun
    Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
    1 : the quality or state of being mendacious
    2 : LIE
    3 : Richard Bruce “Dick” Cheney

    Impeach Cheney and Bush NOW. All Hail President Pelosi.

  • There is absolutely no left-wing equivalent of Rush, but for the sake of some comparison, imagine if between 2009-2007, Vice President Richardson rarely made public appearances or did interviews with the MSM, avoided Fox Noise and gave monthly exclusive interviews with Rosie O’Donnell. For consistency, I’m sure the Wingnuts would have no problem with that all all.

  • Propaganda to prop up former propaganda.
    Period

    I’ve just visited another blog which included the Rush dittoheads. Truely weird how they live ina different world than the Reality- based community.

  • Cheney asserted a relationship between Saddam and AQ on Rush Limbaugh. I see a big article disproving this on the front page of today’s WaPo. People like my father listen to Rush religiously, and consider the WaPo part of the anti-Bush “liberal media”. In other words, people like my father are going to continue to believe that the relationship existed merely because Cheney said so, on a source that he trusts – my father isn’t going to read any contradictory stories- and even if he did, he would discount it as coming from a “liberal source”. Rather than making Cheney “look rediculous”, I think Cheney’s appearance on Rush’s program counts more as a “Mission Accomplished” moment – a pre-emptive strike against the release of the report designed to re-assure the base. And I’m sure it worked. Next time I see and argue with my father, I can be sure that he’s going to bring up the Saddam/AQ connection and refuse to believe when I say that it’s be debunked, because Cheney said so. Hellava job, Dick.

  • No person who respected the office of the vice presidency would appear on Rush Limbaugh.

  • Lying on the radio show of a convicted drug felon/ who did SO MUCH “hillbilly -her-oin” that he lost his hearing.
    F’ing PATHETIC, deadeye.
    Deadeye and deadnuts.
    F’ing pathetic.
    You two scum deserve each other.

  • “You cannot pursue this fiction that some of them like to pursue, that they “support the troops,” but they’re opposed to everything the troops are doing.”

    I guess the dark lord is referring to Democrats in his obfuscation of the word “they” in his dictatorial diarrhea-of-the-mouth on yesterday’s edition of The Big Fat Idiot Show.

    However, myself being a Democrat, I want to respond that I am not “opposed to everything the troops are doing.” Furthermore, the only “fiction” that I choose to “pursue” is the Cheney Administration’s narrative on the events of 9/11, the unlawful military occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, the Global War On Truth, and pretty much anything that comes out of the Usurper-In-Chief’s pie-hole.

    I want our troops to succeed in their mission of our national defense. However, I do not believe that the mission of our national defense is predicated upon the illegal, unprovoked occupation of foreign nations.

  • The fuckwits who listen to those fat fuckwits deserve whatever brain damage they sustain by engaging in said activity.

    Also, didn’t Flush blow off an invitatoin to the White Wash House shortly before the elections? Looks like Dick can’t quit his favourite lard bucket.

    I think it is more pathetic than annoying that the most unpopular Veep evA feels the need to receive an on-air hand job from Flushie and repeat the same old crap that only the 28%ers believe. Someone call the FCC. Didn’t Howard Stern get a beating for broadcasting some sort of sex-a-thon? Flush should be fined for servicing the Veep on air.

    And what possible purpose can this shit serve? The audience already knows that Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussien were lovers and Nancy Pelosi is planning to make them all have abortions and this country would be a lot better if the brown folks would just go back to where they came from etcetera. Looks like our tax dollars are paying for nothing more than an broadcast wankfest.

  • I’m not sure who is the drug addict. I wonder how many meds Cheney is on for his heart condition and what the possible interactions are? You never know, he could be another whacked out junkie who’s leading us down some psychotic path.

  • Can you imagine the fun in watching the VP being “grilled” by Colbert? Of course there’s no way in heck Cheney would do it.

  • The New York Sun recently began to promote Cheney as the Republican candidate for president in ’08. I’ve got his campaign slogan should he decide to run:

    Cheney:Giving meaning to the expression to “be a dick”.

  • on an optimistic note, msnbc now has a story that leads with 2 paragraphs discussing cheney’s claim that al qaeda was in iraq before we invaded, and then spent the next 5 paragraphs covering the newly declassified documents that totally debunked his claim. maybe some are beginning to see the light?

  • I totally agree with #12 comment. Saw the headline and went “why would a vice-president appear on RL show. Demeaning and embarrassing for the country. But frankly, what kind of person could have any respect for Cheney at this point in time. The only way to not know is to not want to know (from “All the Kings Men”) about Cheney’s treason and the deaths he is responsible for. It means nothing to him…he has no conscience.

  • Why on Limbaugh’s show? Because he’s not liked anywhere else. That’s all he’s got left.

    Heard on NPR a couple of days ago about the protests at BYU over Cheney’s commencement address. Apparently the school didn’t think to invite him– his office called and requested it!!
    Perhaps they were looking for some warm fuzzies, but it appears he’s not even liked there.

    Thus, a quick stop at Rush’s house for a chat and a hug.

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