Presidential candidates who obviously want to lose — Parts I and II

For a while, it looked like [tag]Rudy Giuliani[/tag] had a clear-but-dubious strategy in talking to GOP primary voters about his pro-choice views: insist it wouldn’t matter. Sure, he supports abortion rights, Giuliani would say, but his judicial nominees would be Scalia-like conservatives who would ultimately reject everything Giuliani believes in. Problem solved!

Except, at some point over the last few weeks, Giuliani realized this a) doesn’t make any sense; and b) isn’t going to work. The former NYC mayor has decided to peek behind Door #2 — insist his pro-choice positions don’t matter because abortion doesn’t matter.

Two weeks ago, this led [tag]Giuliani[/tag] to admit that he supports public funding of abortion. Over the weekend, it led Giuliani to tell Republicans to change their priorities.

Giuliani made his sharpest case for moving beyond social issues this weekend in Iowa, telling The Des Moines Register, “Our party is going to grow, and we are going to win in 2008 if we are a party characterized by what we’re for, not if we’re a party that’s known for what we’re against.”

Asked about abortion, he said, “Our party has to get beyond issues like that.”

Thanks for stopping by the booth, Rudy, we have some lovely parting gifts for you (none of which include a Republican Party presidential nomination).

Rich Lowry was clearly unhappy with the remarks, while Hot Air, suggesting that Giuliani may have been taken a little out of context, nevertheless said, “Giuliani may have just cost himself the nomination…. I was giving Giuliani a close look in spite of quite a few things, because he projects strength on the war. But telling social conservatives to ‘get over it’ is arrogant. It also betrays what he really thinks about the pro-life movement.”

Giuliani has to know these questions are coming, which suggests his “get over it” message is his idea of an effective campaign pitch. Good luck with that, Mr. Mayor.

And then, of course, there’s former Wisconsin governor and former HHS Secretary [tag]Tommy Thompson[/tag], who told a Jewish group yesterday that earning money is “part of the Jewish tradition.” It was his idea of a complement.

“I’m in the private sector and for the first time in my life I’m earning money,” Thompson told the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism. “You know that’s sort of part of the Jewish tradition, and I do not find anything wrong with that.”

After he left the stage, someone apparently told Thompson, who is Roman Catholic, that this was an incredibly dumb thing to say, so he went back to the podium to “clarify.”

“I just want to clarify something because I didn’t [by] any means want to infer or imply anything about Jews and finances and things. What I was referring to, ladies and gentlemen, is the accomplishments of the Jewish religion. You’ve been outstanding businesspeople and I compliment you for that.”

And just to top things off

During the speech, Thompson also called himself the governor of the first state to buy “Jewish bonds” — presumably meaning Israel Bonds — and said his friend who persuaded him to buy the bonds was also a big supporter of the “Jewish Defense League” — probably meaning the Anti-Defamation League, not the militant group.

Asked about the comments, Thompson spokesman Tony Jewell later said the candidate was sorry. “He is sorry he misspoke in complimenting the success that Jewish people have had in the United States. It is something that he admires – financially and otherwise.”

Don’t worry, Gov. Thompson, you weren’t going to win anyway.

Is Rudy catapulting the primary voters and making a play for the swing voters in the actual election? That might work if he could actually land the nomination… but I don’t think he can.

  • The funny thing is that Giuliani is right. But the right doesn’t want to hear it. So the right is wrong on what is right if they wish to win.

  • If polls show that any other Republican candidate would be slaughtered in the general, the party might bite the bullet and nominate Rudy anyway. He’ll be their John Kerry–no one’s first choice, but a lot of people’s second or third.

  • If Rudy wins the GOP nomination, the Party of Lincoln will have fully transformed into the Party of Stephen A. Douglas (the Democratic nominee in 1860; the “A.” stands for “A Compromiser”).

  • If we can get them to take this stance on immigration, taxes, healthcare, prayer in school, business/labor law, and gays we might make some progress in this country. Run Rudy Run!

  • That looks like mighty slow work with that shovel, Senator Thompson. Here, use this backhoe.

  • I guess for Rudy the truth will set you back. This could be the election the social ultra conservatives divorce themselves from a Republican party forced to be more pragmatic to get more than 30% of the populace to vote for them.

    Tommy Thomspon … what an ass. What he said ranks right up there with “nappy headed hoes” in its stupidity. Shorter Thompson, “Hey Jews, I love your money as much as you do.”

  • Rudy’s base is corporate America where the big money is. He’s never been part of or identified with NASCAR, redneck, evangelical, Southern-accented America which is where the GOP get their votes. Bush was able to combine the two – there’s no way that Giuliani can, but it’s surprising that he’s so tone-deaf that he’s seemingly stopped trying.

    Of course CNBC had the Edwards hair-cut story this morning, but nothing at all when it comes to somebody like Giuliani talking about “issues”.

  • “Don’t worry, Gov. Thompson, you weren’t going to win anyway.”

    Too many Thompsons, anyway. One won’t be missed.

  • Hey, the Romney campaign never acknowledged the Virginia Tech massacre on Mitt’s presidential website yesterday. No statement from the candidate, no nothing. All the other candidates put up a message. Nothing from Mitt. Another presidential candidate who obviously wants to lose?

  • Asked about abortion, he said, “Our party has to get beyond issues like that.”

    He’s probably right, you know. The GOP does have to get beyond issues like that.

    Marketing classes used to teach the Unique Selling Proposition.

    In a crowded market of comparable products, growing an existing brand depends on identifying your USP, and leaning hard on that.

    Confronting the hard truth — the ‘social agenda’ is a long-term disaster for the party — is his USP.

  • I wish that the Dems would be this straight about reproductive rights.
    No one, I repeat NO ONE likes the idea of abortion. But it is so private, so intimate that it’s the mass version of Terri Schaivo – the government butting into matters so personal that the idea of it doing so is obscene.
    We need to remember that state control of birth control is part of the Theocrat’s agenda, too.
    How I would love to see the Theocrats bolt the Republic party. The cobbled mess of Low-Wage Repubs (Corporatists), Social “Conservatives” (Theocrats), and (deluded) Libertarians can’t hold together forever. Who’s leaving the party first?

  • Please guys,leave Thompson alone. Without pandering to the Jewish community–no politician gets anywhere. Without the hardwork and well organization of Jewish business folks–we’d be a 3rd world nation like Russia and Poland who kicked out the hard working true engines of wealth. sad part is–Once Thompson is not on the public trough–he will find it hard to make a buck on his own.

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