The Giuliani campaign only cares about millionaire farmers

Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign, disorganized and off-message for a few too many weeks, didn’t need another controversy that makes the candidate look ridiculous. It got one anyway.

In advance of a campaign swing through Iowa, a Giuliani aide contacted Deb and Jerry VonSprecken, farmers who had recently donated to Giuliani’s campaign. The staffer asked if the VonSpreckens would be willing to host an event on their farm, and the couple, honored to even be asked, agreed.

Deb got to work, contacting local officials and inviting everyone she could find. They even underwent a security check. Then, Team Giuliani called back.

“They wanted to know our assets,” she revealed, and added that she and Jerry have a modest 80 acre farm and raise cattle.

Later she received a call from Tony Delgado at the Des Monies location.

“Tony said, ‘I’m sorry, you aren’t worth a million dollars and he is campaigning on the Death Tax right now.’ then he said they weren’t going to be able to come,” Deb continued.

The Death Tax is a federal version of the Iowa Inheritance Tax.

The VonSpreckens then called Delgado back and told him how upset they were that the event had been cancelled, how much work they had done and that they had been expecting 75-100 people at their farm.

“I invited him into my home,” Deb said of Giuliani, fighting back tears.

Yes, the Giuliani campaign was only interested in the VonSpreckens because it thought they were multi-millionaires. Giuliani needed a prop, not a family, and as soon as the campaign realized the VonSpreckens’ net worth, they were no longer of any value to Rudy “Man of the People” Giuliani.

There are a variety of entertaining angles to this one, which should, if there’s any justice at all, turn into quite a headache for the former NYC mayor.

First, the campaign doesn’t even understand the basics of the estate tax. Jonathan Chait noted that the estate tax currently allows an exemption of $2 million per person, or $4 million per couple. “So if they’re looking to highlight the evils of the estate tax, finding a family with assets over $1 million isn’t going to cut it. As the Center on Budget and Policy priorities pointed out last year, at the 2006 exemption level, only 123 farms in the country would have paid any estate tax at all. How many of those families live in Iowa, and of those, how many are Giuliani supporters? The campaign may be looking for a good prop for a long time.”

Second, Greg Sargent followed up with the VonSpreckens directly, who confirmed the accuracy of the story. “I told [Rudy’s aide] from day one that we were poor folks, just trying to scrape by,” Deb VonSprecken said. “When they [asked us to host the event], I was just ecstatic. We were honored. It was an honor and a privilege. We worked so hard…. Why would Rudy Giuliani not come speak to the average Americans that live in eastern Iowa, instead of qualifying you as a millionaire before he will show up to your place?” Ouch.

Third, according to a far-right blogger in Iowa, John McCain’s team is pushing this story fairly aggressively.

And fourth, what do you suppose the media would do if a Democratic campaign snubbed a couple of family farmers in Iowa because they weren’t wealthy enough? I mean, obviously this isn’t nearly as fascinating as a Democrat getting an expensive haircut, but couldn’t CNN send a camera crew to the VonSpreckens farm? I bet it’d make for some compelling campaign coverage. (Tip to assignment editors: Deb VonSprecken told Sargent she’d be willing to speak to the media about this.)

Lately, it seems like the Giuliani campaign has been one screw-up after another. Somewhere, Fred Thompson is smiling.

Who’s behind the Giuliani campaign, you may ask? Buttheads like Steve Forbes and the Club for Growth. This is the proof.

  • I’m sure Giuliani will explain this is all just mistake, a misunderstanding. Is Giuliani going to go on the record that Mrs. VonSprecken is a liar?

    I’m going to go on the record right now and say that Giuliani doesn’t care about the average American farmer. But they’ll be virtually extinct before long anyhow, what with All-American corporate greed monopolizing agriculture.

  • Who IS running his campaign? There are plenty of big bucks farming operations in the Midwest, but they have a hell of a lot more than 80 acres. And because the trend of their kids leaving farming for other careers, they’d be perfect for the Death Tax argument. Idiots.

  • The Iowa newspaper this story appeared in must be owned by Rupert Murdoch:

    The Death Tax is a federal version of the Iowa Inheritance Tax.

    Actually, it’s called the Estate Tax….not the Death Tax.

  • Giuliani can just talk to some of those millionaires on Long Island. Aren’t there farms on Long Island?

    See, everything he needs to run for POTUS is right there in NYC!

    Better yet, just drop out.

  • Like the haircut- the story is stupid. As to the poor farmers, what do you expect from a party that caters to the wealthy. They got exactly what they deserved.

  • It’s getting harder to believe Giuliani is serious about running if this is the way he’s going to go about it.

  • Fred Thompson smiling? Hardly. He couldn’t even do it in Die Hard 2… and that says something.

  • As I wrote yesterday in another thread here, the most relevant aspect of the news that Giuliani is planning to “come out” as a supporter of abortion rights is that he will now offer himself as the First Bitch of Grover Norquist and the (Hair) Club for Growth. If he’s going to piss off the religious fundamentalists, he’ll be sure to suck off the market fundamentalists for every last drop of potential support.

    (Sorry to be so graphic, but Rudy’s such a whore that he leaves me no other stylistic choice…)

  • Doesn’t this just prove that the estate tax doesn’t affect all but the rich in America? Rudy not only shot his campaign in the foot, he shoot the estate tax “debate” in the foot as well. Will farmers like the Delgado’s be affected by the estate tax? NO, because they aren’t RICH enough. So guys like Rudy want to shift taxes away from folks much richer than the Delgados and and place more of the tax burden on the backs of the Delgados. Point proved.

  • Raoul – right on! I felt sorry for the couple for a few seconds – then I read your comment. For real! When a non-white non-rich person actually comes in contact w/ those who run the GOP – only then do they realize the ilk they’ve supported w/ their votes and bumper stickers.

  • A few points:

    The local paper referred to the Estate tax as the Death Tax. I prefer the Paris Hilton Types Tax. think some paper will pick that up?

    This event is custom made for John Edwards. If he could be their “White Knight” while letting them declare that they are still voting Republican, that would be worth 5 million in free PR. It would help the VonSpreckens out, too.

    And I’ve read that many residents of NYC are not surprised that Rude-y and his campaign staff are behaving like stupid, arrogant pricks. That was his style as Mayor.

  • Go Rudy, alienating one voter at a time.

    Sung to the Tune of Barenaked Ladies (if I had a million dollars)
    If you had a million dollars
    (If you had a million dollars)
    I’d visit your ole farm
    (I’d visit your ole farm)
    If you had a million dollars
    (If you had a million dollars)
    I’d bring folks to your event
    (Maybe a nice TV crew or a reporter)
    And if you had a million dollars
    (If you had a million dollars)
    Well, I’d use you for a prop
    (A nice Death Tax Rebuttal)
    If you had a million dollars you’d buy my love

    If you had a million dollars
    I’d whore you out to my buds
    If you had million dollars
    You could help, it wouldn’t be that hard
    If you had million dollars
    Maybe we could give Bernie Kerick a job post jail somewhere
    You know, he could just go up there and hang out
    And sell the Death Tax stuff
    There would already be laid out foods for us
    Like some expensive caviar and things…
    (screeech!)

    Rudy, they’re poor!
    They have no caviar as they’re just ordinary folks

    Uh see ya…

    Well, can’t you blame Rudy
    Well, yeah…

  • Des Moines Register headlines this afternoon should read:

    East Coast Millionaire to Heartland Family: You’re Too Poor For Me To Care

  • “at the 2006 exemption level, only 123 farms in the country would have paid any estate tax at all.”

    Ok, but what if you own a farm and a house ? Or god forbid, you own a farm, a house and some mutual funds ?

    Does anyone really believe that there are only 123 farmers in the USA who have TOTAL NET ASSETS (including farm, car, house, stocks, etc.) of less than 4 million per couple ?

    Further, if you are planning on inheriting, you need to make sure your parents die before 2011 or else you inheritance exemption drops from 4 million per couple to 1.2 million per couple.

  • How Bush, the Far Right, and Big Business Are Betraying Americans for Power and Profit

    Let’s take a very close, very honest look at what’s been going on in this country, the United States of America, and let’s see what we can come up with. A relatively recent federal criminal investigation of Kerik waves a HUGE RED FLAG about the unexplainable decisions made by President Bush, Vice President Cheney, the Republican front-runner to replace him (Giuliani) and Attorney General Gonzales. Thinking back on how Giuliani put forward a flawed candidate for high office, how Bush rushed the usual process in his eagerness to install a political ally and how Gonzales, as White House counsel, failed to stop the nomination despite the many warning signs of which Julie Meyers was aware well in advance. Obviously, then, Gonzales rushed in to take the vetting process into his own hands with the objective of making sure the nomination was not stopped and to prevent the public outrage that was coming at the Bush administration should the public’s suspicion prove true that our own President put a pathetic, uneducated criminal in the most powerful position of the president’s cabinet all just to serve his sinister purpose of gaining a political ally to do his dirty work from the position that would be easiest.

    I don’t know if anybody’s noticed, but Bush’s entire presidential foundation rests on what he has our troops doing in Iraq with this ridiculous “War on Terror.” Come on, what better position to promote and validate that “War on Terror” than HOMELAND SECURITY?!?!? Wars make money, that’s been true throughout the history of this country – we all learn about it in grade school and high school – a wartime economy is a flourishing one. Lately, one big question buzzing amongst the people has been, well, then what the hell happened here? Haha. This war is making plenty of money. For Bush and the Bush administration – Cheney, Giuliani, Kerik, Gonzales… come on, these guys are doing business, baby! They’re making big money! They’re rolling in the $$$$$. It’s an enterprise. A Criminal Enterprise. What are the American people doing in the mean time? Getting played. What are the American troops doing “over there”? Dying. For what noble cause did our good old President Bush send these young men and women to Iraq? To put money in his pocket of course. That’s right, moms and dads, brothers and sisters of those brave young men and women who were sent to Iraq based on a lie – it’s your sons and daughters lives, your brother’s and sister’s lives that are being traded off to fatten up the wallets of some very crafty, very sinister criminals who wear suits and strut around Capitol Hill committing crimes and debasing everything that makes the United States of America a wonderful and honorable country – a country “for the People, by the People.” Oh but don’t worry, Bush isn’t a rude guy – he’s sharing the wealth with his buddies in the Bush administration who are members of a criminal political enterprise built up by and in the Republican party. Now that some of the bad apples are finally falling off the tree, the truth is seeping out around the edges of the lies that cloaked the Bush administration – a strong lesson can be learned here, – when you’re too arrogant, your criminal activity inevitably gets messy. Apparently, a person who reaches this level of arrogance wouldn’t recognize his cue to “quit while you’re ahead” even if it smacked him between the eyebrows. People are resigning left and right. What does Bush do? Well, it’s his typical move when things get rocky and his speed + secrecy formula doesn’t work. It’s just what he did with having Gonzales personally take charge of the vetting process when information about Kerik’s not-so-clean background leaked out in the press at the time of the Homeland Security Nomination. Bush turns to the aid of one of his cronies, his political allies, his partners in crime, whatever you want to call them, and has them validate his actions. This time, when everyone is questioning the war in Iraq harder than ever, and some Democrats out there on Capitol Hill are finally trying to put their foot down and refuse giving Bush whatever the hell he wants, specifically more funding for his “War on Terrorism.” What does Bush do in response? He announces that he will veto any funding that doesn’t last him more than the next few months, and – out of nowhere – appoints “War Czars.” What the hell is a War Czar? I love how Bush just makes up all these special little positions that oh-so-conveniently fit perfectly into a solution to get him out of a shameful political pickle. Well, I would be willing to bet a pretty penny that these War Czars are going to conveniently agree with, substantiate and validate Bush’s firm stand on his decision to stay in Iraq longer. I don’t know, I could be wrong, but it just seems to fit the pattern.

    The opportunity presents itself now to hold Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, Kerik, Tenet, Wolfowitz, Greenspan, Gonzales, and plenty more involved responsible for the mess they have made of this country both at home and in foreign affairs. America must seize the opportunity and demand the whole truth about the scandals these men have been pulling off on us behind our backs. Don’t forget, these men are scrambling to make sure America does not get the whole truth – that’s the only way they can save themselves from suffering the consequences of their actions – crimes committed behind closed doors.

    My real serious question is, Will America merely accept the façade Bush fabricates for us yet again, or will we wise up this time? It seems we have been more and more. And I have to say, I have been rooting for all of my fellow citizens here in America, because I have a lot of respect for this country and the people in it. We should be proud to be Americans. Don’t forget, the people who came to this country and made us the United States of America – our Forefathers – were people who came here emotionally beat up and battered, and they established what became the most powerful country in the world! The evolution of this country is very much infused with a Darwinistic survival of the fittest dynamic. There is something to be said for that. We Americans pioneered so much from the industrial revolution right up to the huge forum of business and culture in what has become one of the capitols of the world – our very own New York City. Trust me, people, it was New York City long before Rudolph Giuliani. He didn’t make it, he didn’t bring it the sense of community New Yorkers feel, and he certainly didn’t rescue it –He defiled it. I don’t care how many glorified pictures we have of him waving and looking self-righteous in the midst of the debris that was the Twin Towers. The only thing Rudy Giuliani ever did for NYC was disgrace it and offend its people by fooling them for a few years.
    Giuliani possesses what I like to call the allure of toxic leaders. Let’s face it, in most cases, we choose our bad leaders, they do not kidnap us. We choose them because they soothe our fears. Giuliani’s political career was plummeting downwards until one decisive day that turned everything around – 9/11. Ever since then, he has done a masterful job of manipulating the American people. He took up the role of America’s Mayor and suddenly became an expert on terrorism. First of all, I personally have gone to other countries and done counter terrorism work (counter terrorism is what I have been doing for over twenty years – I work in Intelligence for the CIA and DIA), and I can assure you that Rudy Giuliani can walk around Ground Zero in clouds of smoke all he wants, but that’s all the Rudy Giuliani the American public knows is – clouds of smoke. One thing that stands out in Giuliani’s political career is his recommendation of Bernard Kerik for Homeland Security. It’s not at all difficult to see that Kerik is at best “a flawed candidate” – he didn’t even graduate high school, he is the son of a prostitute and he grew up a street-smart criminal in Passaic County. We all know that Kerik is a criminal now though, because Kerik has already been arrested twice, indicted and is currently under federal investigation – and that’s only the tip of the ice-berg. As Washington Post notes, “After Kerik withdrew, Ray became the central witness in several investigations.” Ray refers to Larry Ray, – that’s me. I am the man responsible for a lot of what you have been seeing on the news lately including the exposure of Cheney and Gonzales. I had to start by exposing Bernie (Kerik) and continue from there. After I released the information I had about Kerik in Nov. ’04, an already vicious campaign Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, Kerik, Gonzales, and Chris Christy had going on against me to discredit and destroy me suddenly took a sharp turn into something brutal to get to me by torturing my children. For more of the truth and easy ways that you can help bring it out to the rest of our fellow Americans without even having to move from your computer, go to my site:

    http://www.truthwins.info/vice-president-cheneytake-down-this-corruption/

    When I think of Bush and his associates, one word comes to mind: PREMEDITATED.

    You want to know where the crimes are? Just look at any Bush administration appointments and ask the question, “What is the utility to George Bush and Dick Cheney?” Next question, “What is the quid pro quo?”

    I would like to send my prayers out to all those who we remember on Memorial Day, including those whom we have recently lost in Iraq. God bless those brave souls, and God bless their families. God forgive those who have lied to get us into war with Iraq to begin with and who continue to lie to keep us there.

    Faithfully,
    Larry Ray

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