Giuliani’s 9/11 legacy

OK, so Rudy Giuliani has a problem when it comes to domestic policy. And his personal life. And his knowledge of foreign policy. And who he chooses to associate himself with, professionally.

But, when it comes to his presidential campaign, at the very least, he has the terrorist attacks of 9/11 to point to, right? Wrong.

An examination of Mr. Giuliani’s handling of the extraordinary recovery operation during his last months in office shows that he seized control and largely limited the influence of experienced federal agencies. In doing that, according to some experts and many of those who worked in the trade center’s ruins, Mr. Giuliani might have allowed his sense of purpose to trump caution in the rush to prove that his city was not crippled by the attack.

Administration documents and thousands of pages of legal testimony filed in a lawsuit against New York City, along with more than two dozen interviews with people involved in the events of the last four months of Mr. Giuliani’s administration, show that while the city had a safety plan for workers, it never meaningfully enforced federal requirements that those at the site wear respirators.

At the same time, the administration warned companies working on the pile that they would face penalties or be fired if work slowed. And according to public hearing transcripts and unpublished administration records, officials also on some occasions gave flawed public representations of the nature of the health threat, even as they privately worried about exposure to lawsuits by sickened workers. […]

Lee Clarke, director of health and safety for District Council 37, the city’s largest public employees’ union, said Mr. Giuliani used “very, very poor judgment” in rushing to reopen the financial district without watching out for the workers who cheered him at ground zero. Ms. Clarke said that if those workers found themselves in a meeting with Mr. Giuliani today, “a number of them would be standing up, wanting a piece of Rudy.”

In addition to the obvious hardship on workers and their families, the politics of this is enough to make one wonder why Giuliani is even bothering to run.

For that matter, all of this comes on top of Giuliani’s conflict with FDNY and the International Association of Fire Fighters, which comes on top of questions about why Giuliani put the city’s emergency response team in a known terrorist target.

On the latter point, Giuliani is trying to place the blame elsewhere.

Rudy Giuliani yesterday fingered his former top emergency-management aide Jerry Hauer as the man responsible for the tragic decision to put the city’s emergency command bunker inside the World Trade Center complex.

“Jerry Hauer recommended that as the prime site and the site that would make the most sense,” Giuliani said on “Fox News Sunday,” adding, “It was largely on his recommendation that that site was selected.”

Giuliani was answering a question about why the city built the $61 million bunker on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center despite the 1993 truck-bomb attack on the WTC, even though Hauer – a Democrat who has since had a falling-out with Giuliani – had told him the existing facility in Brooklyn could be updated.

Giuliani has to know this kind of 9/11 scrutiny is coming, right? If so, he also has to know his 9/11 halo almost certainly can’t remain intact for very long.

The guy is a microcosm of Republican rule. Play on people’s fears, and kill them slowly with toxic exposure to mismanagement which is deliberately designed to help the Republicans politically. When you’re caught, blame someone else. Never take responsibility.

Take a deep breath of asbestos, America. That’s Republican governance.

  • Watch it CB, WTC7 is a dirty word.

    But of course, the American public still deserves to know what the Cheney government has yet to explain — why a 47-story skyscrapper (WTC7) collapsed at near free-fall speed at 5:20 PM ET, 9/11/2001, although it was not hit by an airplane.

  • Never bought it. Running around in front of the cameras doesn’t make you competent. Never could see why people were referring to him as “America’s Mayor”. Besides of having no command center, he couldn’t even get the police and fire fighters on the same radio frequency to coordinate their efforts resulting in getting many firemen killed. Then the clean-up was botched from day one. He couldn’t have been more inept unless he would have just broken down in front of the cameras and bawled (but you have to have concern for others to do that). People and the press kept hurrah-ing him and I still don’t know why. Whatever made him think that someone like him could ever be elected president is beyond me. I guess it’s the money and ego.

  • It is possible that Guiliani’s run is a run in name rather than substance. Everything he is doing right now also helps his business(es). It is my understanding that while he has made some preliminary changes, he hasn’t done anything that would preclude his simply returning to “private life”–but with a raised profile and presumably higher engagement fees. It seemed to work for Donald Trump, so I don’t see why it wouldn’t work for Guiliani.

  • But Chris Mathews said Rudy removed the smell of urine from the NYC subway in the 90’s, so he should be President. And Tweety said it so it must be true.

  • JKap: Even stranger than WTC7 falling hours after the actual attack, is the fact that the BBC was live on air reporting that WTC7 had come down, yet the reporter doing the peice was standing in NYC, with WTC7 CLEARLY visible in the background. Ask yourself this: If they were reportingt that WTC7 had gone down BEFORE it actually did, who gave them that info?

    On another note, about 6 months after 9-11, my sister in law who lives in Staten Island and works in Manhattan came down with lukemia. No history of cancer in the family, no prior health issues. Who knows how many people have cancers thanks to the poor judgement of Guiliani and the rest of the bunch.

  • All of the “America’s Mayor” pimping is not going to be enough to overcome the growing list of reasons why Giuliani should not – and will not – be America’s next president.

    Given the likelihood that he will not overcome these problems, who’s he making way for? Thompson? Gingrich? Thompson seems about to be anointed as Reagan Redux, which shows just how thin the ranks of qualified Republicans are, and Gingrich has his own problems.

    And what of the possible Hagel-Bloomberg ticket? Would that siphon votes from both sides of the aisle? What ever would Joe Lieberman do? Mount a campaign as the “America for Lieberman” party candidate?

    The mind boggles.

  • “In addition to the obvious hardship on workers and their families, the politics of this is enough to make one wonder why Giuliani is even bothering to run.”

    Don’t worry; if by some miracle Rudy G manages to clinch the R nomination, RW talk radio will start to slander the Ground Zero workers as negligent and incompetent. ‘They should have breathed through their own bootstraps’, will be the talking point.

  • My dad, a low-information suburban Democrat and retired union member, loves Giuliani. My mom, ditto, is leaning that way, and neither is a New Yorker.

    Giuliani’s attraction to him has little or nothing to do with 9/11. It’s more to do with his cleaning up New York and keeping the Other in line. Diallou and Dorismond and Louima are plusses, not minuses for him.

    ‘Security moms’ know there’s little real danger from foreign terrorists, but are terrified of Them — people who look different, and mostly live in cities.

    They’ve heard that Giuliani made the big city safe for Whitey again, broke as many rules as he needed to to get there, and they hope he can do the same thing at the national level.

    America-as-Outer-Borough, if you will.

  • Edo wrote: “Davis X. Machina, I hope you are wrong and fear that you are right. ”

    Here’s hoping that the average voter still hasn’t seen Rudy G in action on the political scene. Even if people just want a leader who will rid America of the ‘darkies’, it’s hard to imagine that they’ll think Rudy can accomplish this goal when they see him bumble around in debates. His performance at the R debate was pretty sad.

  • Edo,

    Davis is right. I was going to say the same thing. Though not nearly as well!

  • Re: Davis X. Machina in #9…

    I do think Dems need to look at the reasons why people are frustrated by the apparent inability of Dems to confront high-crime areas effectively because of political considerations. I’m not saying we should adopt Rudy’s Gestapo tactics, but we do need to figure out some new ways of restoring people’s security rather than being the party that seems to be always defending someone’s right to pee in the subway.

    I’m not a racist, but I know there are places that aren’t safe to go, and that there is often a racial element to those areas. And I know many if not most people want them cleaned up. And I get the impression sometimes that Dems care more what Sharpton thinks than what I think.

    Just sayin’ we need to remember that there are crime areas, and that people want them cleaned up, so Dems need to show we know how to do that too, along with keeping the cops from shooting people for no reason.

  • I don’t doubt that Giuliani would be every bit as lousy a president as every other Republican, but I don’t see these 9/11 retrospectives as being much of a political hindrance to him. I’ve got a hunch that where you might see public service workers endangered (I don’t know enough about it to have an opinion), lots of voters will see a take-charge mayor ramrodding through some kind of action, maybe any kind of action — only an ingrate would quibble about some problems after the fact. And anyway (the thinking goes), aren’t those public sector unions always whining about something or other?

    If liberals and Dems want to hammer Rudy over 9/11-related matters, they’d do a lot better to stick to two well-known Giuliani idiocies: 1) relocating the NYC emergency HQ to the WTC, and 2) Bernie Kerik.

  • I totally agree with sglover. Warm fuzzies go a long way with people. He acted like he was in charge and going somewhere – anywhwere. In a crisis that is comforting.

    It is my theory that so many candidates run in primaries to test the water for different talking points. There is no downside for Rudy. As mentioned by others, his business gets a kick from his visibility, it is a subtle reminder to voters about 9-11 and how we should be afraid (and Repugs are authoritative daddy figures), and he develops talking points for the final candidate. That’s the benefit for someone like Fred Thompson who holds out until the last minute to sweep in and take over. If we knew ahead of time all of his positions, he couldn’t co-opt the working talking points…

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