Cheney’s good cop/warmongering cop routine

As Dick Cheney’s Middle East tour got underway, he sat down with Fox News’ Bret Baier to talk about the region. Today, as his tour wraps up, Cheney discussed his overseas meetings with … Fox News’ Bret Baier. If I didn’t know better, I might think the Vice President is playing favorites among the media. Hard to imagine, I know.

Much of the interview was devoted to Cheney emphasizing his concerns about Iran. When Baier noted that some Middle Eastern leaders believe resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict should take precedent over other issues, the VP dismissed it out of hand: “My experience has been generally throughout the region that everybody is really focused on the Iranian situation. It’s a top priority, if you will, in terms of concerns and the prospects of the Iranians developing nuclear weapons.”

Over and over again, Cheney directed some fairly confrontational rhetoric towards Iran.

“The Iranians have been interfering in the internal affairs of Iraq…. They appear to be determined to develop the capacity to enrich uranium in order to produce nuclear weapons. The UN Security Council now has twice unanimously passed resolutions calling for an end to that Iranian nuclear program. So far, the Iranians have ignored it. They shouldn’t ignore it. They ought to comply with the UN resolutions. […]

“We are confident that there are a number of senior al Qaeda officials in Iran and they’ve been there since the spring of ’03. […]

“I think the important thing is that Iran has become the major source of instability in the region. We saw them last summer support Hezbollah’s attacks on the Israelis. We see them active in terms of resupplying Hezbollah and working through Syria. Syria has, in effect, become an ally of Iran working inside the Arab world. That’s got a lot of people out here very upset. We see obviously continued support by them for Hezbollah. They’ve been and have been for a long time a prime state sponsor of terror.”

Yes, to hear Cheney tell it, Iran is developing an illicit nuclear program, flouting U.N. resolutions, harboring al Qaeda terrorists, sponsoring terrorism, and destabilizing the region.

Now, remind me, which country did the Bush administration just announce it would begin bilateral, diplomatic discussions with? Right, that would be Iran.

The amusing thing is one gets the sense listening to Cheney that he opposes the president’s policy. He didn’t come right out and say, “That’s Condi’s dumb idea, pay no attention to it,” but it seems to be the sentiment, if you read between the lines.

Baier asked about the possible contradiction between saber-rattling towards Iran and agreeing to bilateral talks with Iran at the same time. Cheney stuck to a single phrase to explain.

“Well, the meetings in Baghdad will be at the ambassadorial level and the President has made it abundantly clear that they are to focus specifically on the situation in Iraq…. The Iranians have been interfering in the internal affairs of Iraq and that subject will be discussed at the ambassadorial level.

“I can’t predict what’s going to happen. The President made the decision that we will have these talks at the ambassadorial level in Baghdad, and we’ll see what it produces…. The decision the President made is that there will be conversations at the ambassadorial level on the issue of what Iran is doing in Iraq.”

Cheney seems to believe that so long as our ambassadors are engaged in bilateral diplomacy with Iran, it doesn’t count — because they’re only ambassadors. Anyone buying that?

There was one other exchange worth highlighting.

Baier: On the debate about Iraq at home, do you believe that someone who opposes the war wants terrorists to win?

Cheney: I think they have to be responsible for the consequences of the policy recommendations they make. If, in fact, they advocate complete withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, then they are, to some extent, accountable for what would happen when that policy followed, what happens inside Iraq, what kind of encouragement that might give to al Qaeda. Al Qaeda has based its entire strategy on the proposition that they can break the will of the American people, that if they kill enough that eventually the U.S. Government will withdraw.

In other words, Cheney believes it’s possible that war critics in the U.S. do want terrorists to win.

What a sad, little man.

We’ll be instituting the draft by Sept. so that we can escalate the war into Iran by Oct.

You read it here first.

  • Re-posting from earlier. if this from the orifice of Richard Ballrest Cheney isn’t censure-worthy, then I don’t know what is:

    “So if you’re going to be a public official advocating withdrawal from Iraq, you, in fact, are also saying that what you’re recommending is validating the al Qaeda strategy.”

  • Good cop/bad cop? As someone once said about negotiating with Disney: bad cop/Antichrist. That’s Cheney.

  • “I think they have to be responsible for the consequences of the policy recommendations they make. If, in fact, they advocate no withdrawal and increased numbers of U.S. forces in Iraq, then they are, to some extent, accountable for what would happen while that policy continues, what happens to and inside the fallen soldiers’ families, what kind of discouragement that might give to Americans and America as a whole.”

  • The al-Queda in Iran comment is facially absurd. Al-Queda is a Sunni organization that hates Shiites, Iran is a Shiite state. You’d think the VP would be a little more up on this sort of thing.

  • “I think they have to be responsible for the consequences of the policy recommendations they make.”

    The “policy recommendations” anti-war folks make are a result of the policies of this administration, for which it is responsible.

    What Bubba, #4 said.

  • Sooner or later, depending on the will of our politicians, the US will withdraw most or all its forces from Iraq. No matter when this occurs, Iraq is in for a very turbulent and violent future. Cheney is carefully preparing the ground so that those who advocate withdrawal and ending the war will harvest all the blame for the inevitable chaos.

    Many liberals will be childishly drawn into ridiculous hypothetical dead-end arguments over who is responsible for what future Iraqi horror caused by such-and-such occupation strategy or withdrawal timetable.

    Resist the temptation. The most effective response can only be, “We weren’t the idiots who started the war.”

  • Cheney: I think they have to be responsible for the consequences of the policy recommendations they make.

    Let’s see, would that apply to say, a president and vice president who led their country into a trillion dollar quagmire that divided the nation, even causing the eventual demise of their own political party? Is that maybe what he’s talking about, being “responsible for the consequences of the policy”? Responsible for the deaths of thousands of soldiers, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians…? Responsible for millions of homeless Iraqi refugees, like will he pay their rent or just invite them to stay in one of his guest rooms…? Is that what he means by responsible?

  • Cheney: I think they have to be responsible for the consequences of the policy recommendations they make. If, in fact, they advocate complete withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, then they are, to some extent, accountable for what would happen when that policy followed, what happens inside Iraq, what kind of encouragement that might give to al Qaeda. Al Qaeda has based its entire strategy on the proposition that they can break the will of the American people…

    Actually, Dick, bin Laden’s strategy is to break the bank of the American people. And you have made their plan a reality with your war of choice in Iraq. Of course you planned on sending a lot of that money to your cronies at Halliburton, but what you didn’t plan on was that the war would break the will of the Republican party.

    Your crooked party is heading straight for the dustbin of history, and your name will be followed by spitting whenever Republicans are forced to utter it.

    Someone should start selling Cheney toilet paper, with lots of Dick’s happy-face quotations printed on it.

  • “The Iranians have been interfering in the internal affairs of Iraq” and “I think the important thing is that Iran has become the major source of instability in the region. ”

    The irony of these two statements is staggering. If tens of thousands weren’t dying it would be funny. It’s like Hitler complaining that Russia is a danger to Jews.

  • Dick “Dick” Cheney will probably go down in history as the most powerful yet most incompetent VP in US history and one utterly deluded motherfucker. Like Condi, Cheney seems to bring out the worst in me.

    Apologies to Bad Company for butchering Bad Company

    As VP I’m always on the run
    Scaring folks is my happy fun
    Oh I was born evil as they come
    Behind the scenes I’ll start my Final War
    That’s why they call me

    Bad V P
    And I can’t deny
    Bad V P
    Till the end I lie
    Till the end I lie
    Till the end I lie

    Nixon aides
    Scumbag we are called
    Chose to run and dodged the ‘Nam draft
    Fellow Repubs
    They all know my name
    Grabbing Power is my claim to fame
    I can hear them say

    Bad VP
    And I won’t deny
    Bad Bad VP
    Till the end I lie
    Till the end I lie

    Bad
    Bad V P
    I can’t deny
    Bad V P
    Till the end I lie
    And I say it’s
    Bad V P Oh Yeah—Yeah
    Bad company
    Till the end I lie Oh Yeah

    Tell me that you are not a thief
    Oh But I am
    Bad V P
    It’s the way I play
    Dirty for dirty
    Oh Joe Wilson Double-crossed me
    Double-cross
    Double-cross

    Yeah
    I’m Bad V P
    Shoot you in the face

  • If Cheney had been AGAINST the war instead of it’s most fervent supporter, he might have turned the tide – earlier, and all by himself. He speaks as if his saying something makes it true. The really sad thing that, for a surprising percentage of Americans, too (now hovering down around 18%, I think), it once was enough. Dick Cheney has never wavered in his loopy rhetoric since the beginning – it’s just that a lot of Americans have since fitted a sunshine filter over their ass.

  • “Yes, to hear Cheney tell it, Iran is developing an illicit nuclear program, flouting U.N. resolutions, harboring al Qaeda terrorists, sponsoring terrorism, and destabilizing the region.”

    And Cheney also has intelligence that suggests they like to kick cute puppies like this one:

    http://dailypuppy.com/index.php?itemid=1087

  • “Yes, to hear Cheney tell it, Iran is developing an illicit nuclear program, flouting U.N. resolutions, harboring al Qaeda terrorists, sponsoring terrorism, and destabilizing the region.”

    Oh, and they were responsible for ‘new Coke’.

  • We’ll be instituting the draft by Sept. so that we can escalate the war into Iran by Oct. You read it here first.
    ————————————–Gridlock

    The “pipeline” to Canada will be very busy, come September—and a hearty GFY to the poseur in Blair House….

  • Yes, to hear Cheney tell it, Iran is developing an illicit nuclear program, flouting U.N. resolutions, harboring al Qaeda terrorists, sponsoring terrorism, and destabilizing the region.


    It’s groundhog day. Does Cheney think the American people are stupid enough to fall for the exact same rhetoric he used to launch the Iraq debacle? Or maybe he was in a hurry, and changing a Q to an N was all he had time for. If his psychosis didn’t result in so much bloodshed, he’d be pathetic. As it is, he’s more of a psychopath.

  • Why would Cheney think he is responsible for any consequences? These folks lie to Congress, they violate laws, they torture and NOTHING HAPPENS TO THEM. Consequences are for other people.

  • Cheney is the Al Queda strategy. He’s letting it out of the bag that these “talks” with Iran are just another ploy to give more reasons for starting a war with them. If Congress would only realize that impeachment is the only way to prevent a war with Iran and prevent further destruction of our democracy then maybe they would get their butts in gear before it is too late. If they don’t believe Bush would do this without their permission then they are naive. This is the only way to stop them…Impeachment is not Democrat or Republican it is American, a guaranteed right from the constitution. Everything Cheney said about Iran is also true of Saudi Arabia who are supplying the Sunnis or Pakistan who is already nuclear. Damn it congress, Pelosi, do something.

  • “The Iranians have been interfering in the internal affairs of Iraq….

    Do as Dick says, not as Dick does?

    They appear to be determined to develop the capacity to enrich uranium in order to produce nuclear weapons.

    They ought to comply with the UN resolutions. […]

    Again, do as Dick says, not as Dick does.

    “We are confident that there are a number of senior al Qaeda officials in Iran and they’ve been there since the spring of ‘03. […]

    That number wouldn’t happen to be zero, would it? Because that ended up being the number in the last country we invaded based on the claims of ‘a number of senior al Qaeda officials’ in that country.

    “I think the important thing is that Iran has become the major source of instability in the region.

    LOL.

    Who has been the major source of instability in the Middle East?

  • I agree with bjobotts rising fear. I too fear that this administration will do much more damage before it leaves office. If that is, it doesn’t declare martial law and stay.

  • Like I said Cheney, the terrorists strategy was to get the US to charge right after them into an ambush known as the Iraq civil war, to bog us down, kill us slowly, break us financially, divide our country, knowing you would use fear to take away our individual freedoms, and you inability to regulate your greed would get the war profiteer contractors to destroy Iraq’s infrastructure with incompetence in their race to grab all they could. And like the yahoo cowboys they knew you were they knew you would do exactly that and that your refusal to change would keep you right in the shooting gallery with the ‘splurge’ policy which just continues to drain our money and get our troops killed. Just call you chicken and you scream we are not weak on defense etc., and you stay there while they continue kill you. Remember, it’s not what they did to us, it’s what they got us to do to ourselves. Your greed, pride and self-righteousness makes you so easy to manipulate, Cheney. You and Bush and your think tanks truly are predictably stupid. For once, get smart and do just the opposite of whatever it is you’re thinking. And please stop following the General George Custer, George Bush war plan.

  • Cheney: The Iranians have been interfering in the internal affairs of Iraq….. You don’t say! Something Americans would never dream of doing, of course.

    Cheney: The decision the President made is that there will be conversations at the ambassadorial level on the issue of what Iran is doing in Iraq. Any chance of conversations at the ambassadorial any goddamn level on the issue of what America is doing in Iraq.

    — Just small points that irritate like f%#$k. The arrogance of the man is astounding.

  • Cheney: I think they have to be responsible for the consequences of the policy recommendations they make.

    Well Dick, how about taking some responsibility yourself for the policy recommendations you made in the past? How about just resigning?

  • Big Dick Cheney: “We are confident that there are a number of senior al Qaeda officials in Iran and they’ve been there since the spring of ‘03.”

    I don’t suppose you have any actual proof to back up that statement? As they say, “Fool me once… won’t get fooled again.”

    Oh, that’s right – you only have to fool one person.

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