Meet the new plan, same as the old…

A month ago, we learned that military planners in the Bush administration have given up on the whole they-stand-up, we-stand-down idea. Officials grudgingly came to realize that the strategy hasn’t worked — about more than four years of fighting, there are only 6,000 Iraqi troops who can operate independently — and that U.S. forces would have to defeat insurgents and secure control of troubled provinces.

Today, the WaPo’s David Ignatius suggests the opposite.

President Bush and his senior military and foreign policy advisers are beginning to discuss a “post-surge” strategy for Iraq that they hope could gain bipartisan political support. The new policy would focus on training and advising Iraqi troops rather than the broader goal of achieving a political reconciliation in Iraq, which senior officials recognize may be unachievable within the time available.

The revamped policy, as outlined by senior administration officials, would be premised on the idea that, as the current surge of U.S. troops succeeds in reducing sectarian violence, America’s role will be increasingly to help prepare the Iraqi military to take greater responsibility for securing the country.

“Sectarian violence is not a problem we can fix,” said one senior official. “The Iraqi government needs to show that it can take control of the capital.” U.S. officials offer a somber evaluation of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki: His Shiite-dominated government is weak and sectarian, but they have concluded that, going forward, there is no practical alternative.

You. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding. Me.

Here’s the plan: After the surge is a sterling success, the U.S. will emphasize training Iraqi security forces. How is this different from the last three years? It isn’t. Why would this “gain bipartisan political support”? It won’t.

Indeed, reading Ignatius’s piece is a thoroughly frustrating exerience. He explains in one sentence that the surge strategy is predicated on reducing sectarian violence, and then explains in the very next sentence that “sectarian violence is not a problem we can fix.”

In the next paragraph, Ignatius notes that the Maliki government is overtly sectarian, which leads to additional violence, and the Bush administration is content to empower the Maliki government further, in order to help reduce sectarian violence.

Last month, retired Marine Gen. John J. “Jack” Sheehan, a former top NATO commander who turned down Bush’s “war czar” job, told the Post, “The very fundamental issue is, they don’t know where the hell they’re going.” It’s striking how the administration seems anxious to prove Sheehan right.

Ignatius’ conclusion made even less sense.

The wild cards in this new effort to craft a bipartisan Iraq policy are the Republican and Democratic leaders, President Bush and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. They both say they want a sustainable, effective Iraq policy, but each is deeply entrenched in a partisan version of what that policy should be. America is in a nosedive in Iraq. Can these two leaders share the controls enough that Iraq will become a U.S. project, rather than George Bush’s war? There’s a bipartisan path out of this impasse, but will America’s leaders be wise enough to take it?

So, to summarize, Ignatius believes the “bipartisan path out of this impasse” is to stick with Bush’s policy of the last three years. To hear Ignatius tell it, the way to reach a consensus is for Bush to embrace his own idea — the one that has led us into a “nosedive” in Iraq — and for congressional Dems to go along.

Someone really needs to explain to me why the Washington Post runs columns like this. I just don’t understand.

Someone really needs to explain to me why the Washington Post runs columns like this. I just don’t understand.
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 08:27:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Answer the Carpetbagger
To: davidignatius@washpost.com

David,

I’d like to hear you respond to the Carpetbagger’s assesment of your latest piece.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10873.html

You can just leave your explainations in the comment section of the post.

Thanks,
Haik

  • At this point, I’m thinking that everyone in the Bush Admin, their hangers on, their MSM finks and pretty much everyone who voted for the war (including Hils) should be flown to Iraq, handed a helmet, fatigues, an M-16 and 10 clips of ammo, explain to the Iraqi people why they did what they did and then told to recreate Xenophon’s 10000 hiking back to America while most of the public military gets out on planes.

    No sense in giving these assholes a chance at redemption or even the courtesy of a trial at the Hague. I think their punishment is to sample up close and personal what they created through greed, stupidity, ignorance or sadism.

    Of course that is what I want. Reality tends to let these fuckers go to create new messes.

  • Can these two leaders share the controls enough that Iraq will become a U.S. project, rather than George Bush’s war?

    Translation: Share the blame!

    There’s a bipartisan path out of this impasse, but will America’s leaders be wise enough to take it?

    Gee. Could you say bipartisan divisions are a bit like sectarian divisions? And we’ve already agreed the U.S. can’t do a thing to fix that (only cause it) so I guess we’ll need to … Stay the Course!

    You know what would make me happy? If every editor in every paper forced writers to refer to the war in Iraq as “The War President Bush and a Few of His Cronies Cooked Up.” Ignoartius needs to admit bipartisanship didn’t get us into this fucking mess, but maybe it will get us out.

  • “The very fundamental issue is, they don’t know where the hell they’re going.”

    I think they do know where the hell they’re going. They just don’t want to admit it. Pass the handbaskets.

  • Someone really needs to explain to me why…

    Two reasons:

    AIPAC, and OIL.

    This has been another installment of simple answers to complicated questions.

  • Now, how many times must I tell you? The correct spelling of David’s name is not “Ignatius.” It is “Ignoramus.” Repeat after me, please.

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    Can you say “Ignoramus?” Good. I knew you could.

  • President Bush and his senior military and foreign policy advisers are beginning to discuss a “post-surge” strategy for Iraq that they hope could gain bipartisan political support. The new policy would focus on training and advising Iraqi troops rather than the broader goal of achieving a political reconciliation in Iraq, which senior officials recognize may be unachievable within the time available.

    My reaction was: Are You F’ing Kidding Me?

    “Beginning” to discuss a post-surge strategy? Beginning? A “new” policy, focusing on “training and advising?” What have they been doing for the last three-plus years – teaching the fine are of the tea ceremony? For crying out loud, if we can take raw recruits and train them and send them off to war in a matter of months, what makes them think that after years of “training,” the Iraqis are even capable of being trained?

    So…they are abandoning the whole notion of a political solution and moving forward with more of this military nonsense that isn’t working. Splendid. And they want “bipartisan” efforts? Isn’t “bipartisan” Bush-speak for “my way or the highway?”

    If ever there was a reason to take the checkbook away, this has to be it.

  • David Ignatius: stupid motherfucker of the day.

    Narrowly edging out Fred Hiatt for running this horseshit, the Administration for promulgating it, and Democrats for failing to come out swinging crap like this.

    Just because a famous local columnist has a stupid fucking idea that would help Bush and hurt the country, does. not. mean. you. must. SUPPORT. *IT*.

  • The new policy would focus on training and advising Iraqi troops rather than the broader goal of achieving a political reconciliation in Iraq, which senior officials recognize may be unachievable within the time available.

    So what’s it going to look like if Iraq’s government has a capable army but there’s no “reconciliation” with the Sunnis and Kurds? I’m thinking a Shiite version of Saddam Hussein, wantonly killing all his political enemies using our weapons (in exchange for his oil). Maybe a broader war with the neighboring Sunni nations, or maybe the Iraqi Sunnis simply flee to Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

    Throw in a war with the Kurdish army, maybe Turkey smashing them from the north for a piece of the oil pie.

    Israel laughs from the sidelines and sells weapons to the Kurds.

    All of this would be fairly irrelevant if we weren’t oil junkies. The question is… Can we quit?

    The answer is yes.

    In the United States, oil is primarily used for transportation – roughly two-thirds of all oil use, in fact. So, developing an alternative means of powering our cars, trucks, and buses would go a long way towards weaning us, and the world, off of oil. While the so-called “hydrogen economy” receives a lot of attention in the media, there are several very serious problems with using hydrogen as an automotive fuel. For automobiles, the best alternative at present is clearly biodiesel, a fuel that can be used in existing diesel engines with no changes, and is made from vegetable oils or animal fats rather than petroleum.

    In this paper, I will first examine the possibilities of producing biodiesel on the scale necessary to replace all petroleum transportation fuels in the U.S…

    http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html

  • Last month, retired Marine Gen. John J. “Jack” Sheehan, a former top NATO commander who turned down Bush’s “war czar” job, told the Post, “The very fundamental issue is, they don’t know where the hell they’re going.”

    You see the problem with Gen Sheehan is that he’s living in the reality based world. He does not / cannot see the world as Bush wishes to be. So he’s stuck study the world as it appears now, not the world as it will surely come to be as Bush molds it to his will.

    Gen Sheehan does not understand that The Commander Guy/ Decider calls the shots and changes Reality.

    Bush has not made the decision to un-surge or re-surge yet, so he can’t possibly understand what the “hell is going on.” Once Bush decides on a New Way Forward (rev 9.0 i.e., post-surgism or “stay there indefinitely but with a purpose to win” formerly known as Stay the Course), Gen Sheehan can then study that new Reality. But until Reality changes, Gen Sheehan won’t know what it is.

    Poor fella.

    Thank God, Lutes on the job. He must understand all this.

  • “Why would this “gain bipartisan political support”? It won’t.”

    One word: Lieberwank (I-C[un]T).

    The media still treat him as a Dem for some unknown reason.

  • Bush has a shelf life of another 1.5 years and I have no doubt he’ll prove obstructionist – and will promote the same old BS – until the next Inauguration Day…but how about we start a discussion now about Iraq post-Bush???

    There are very real questions as to how we deploy and retreat…how do we deal with the Iraqi refugees…how do we care for our wounded in the upcoming years, and how do we make sure we never, ever make this kind of mistake again.

    I think it’s time to put His Irrelevancy in a box and begin the conversation without him…

  • The Plan:
    1. Invade
    2. Capture Saddam
    3. Hang Saddam
    4. Plan for exit
    5. Surge
    6. Delcate Surge a complete success
    7. Plan for post surge
    8. Pack stuff and move back to Crawford

  • The comments section following such articles is often well worth reading, since – among the frustration and rage – you can sometimes find real analyses by commenters who obviously have thought this through rather than simply reacting. For example, TomW1 (you can find his observation on page 7 of the comments) wants to know why it will take the U.S. a decade to train the Iraqi Army, when the insurgents hit the ground running every day, “hampered” by no training from the American military and no shiny new weapons, but improvised equipment they throw together with old doorbells, wire, artillery shells and cellphone parts. Tom goes on to recommend that, instead of torturing captured “insurgent” leaders to death in Abu Ghraib, the military might want to think about putting them in charge of the training program. They obviously know what they’re doing, and how to be effective on a shoestring budget.

    The same author closes by pointing out the irony of a defeated army training another army to take on the same forces that defeated it. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

  • BushCo.Inc and all their impotent neocon lapdogs are displaying the ultimate in cowardice. While substiuting bravado for bravery they are too chickenshit to take responsibility for their actions. They screwed up big time on this one but they will never admit it.They are the worst kind of criminals. We WILL abandon Iraq and Iraq WILL burn after we’re gone. But they will never say “We did this; this is our fault.” They will grow old and write books and give interviews, and it will all be the same mealy mouthed bullshit about “If we’d done this and if we’d done that, things would would’ve turned out differently… our hands were tied,etc.” Filth.

  • There are very real questions as to how we deploy and retreat…how do we deal with the Iraqi refugees…how do we care for our wounded in the upcoming years, and how do we make sure we never, ever make this kind of mistake again.

    I think it’s time to put His Irrelevancy in a box and begin the conversation without him… –Comment by ricardo

    And ricardo you have nailed it. The only way forward with Bush is impeachment, but the congress lacks the courage. We have a madman running the country and the Iraq war, and I doubt that he will get the help he needs or that he is capable of analyzing the actual problems confronting us. It really is past time for America to do some soul searching, starting with our leadership, but I don’t know what it will take to accomplish that.

    The problems that this administration have heaped on us are vast and far reaching. Most of us can only think as far as getting rid of the offending cause, but we will all be dealing with the results for a very long time, and we will need real solutions.

    We all look to our leadership for help and guidance, but I am not even sure we are asking the right questions. We have a general election in eighteen months, but do we know what we need beyond an exit strategy? I think we all need to brace ourselves for a big mess and a lot of difficulties, no matter who is elected next time. And that is why I think ricardo is asking the right questions.

  • Gracious, while I agree with your analysis, I sadly lack the faith in the general public required to imagine it being implemented. Even if we asked the right questions in the next 18 months of presidential campaigning, the public will reward those who tell the prettiest lies. When Mondale looked at the insane spending of Reagan’s first term and candidly announced he would have to raise taxes, his polling collapsed within days (and the debts that forced GHW Bush to break his promise and raise taxes fully vindicated Mondale’s position). When Gore and Kerry (or for that matter, Bush’s primary opponents) tried to talk details and Bush just spoke in twangy platitudes, Bush only polled better.

    I hope that 8 years of incompetence has taught enough people a lesson that I will be proven wrong. But right now I would still bet that rhetorical blunder and pandering beats hard truths and complexity in 2008 and every other time for the remaining, possibly short, life of our democracy.

  • Zeitgeist @ 17: You know I am afraid you are correct; the public seems to love platitudes and low taxes, but I am hoping we have learned some lessons from this current disaster. First we should all know by now that lower taxes just means higher fees on services which used to be free or much cheaper. Next we perhaps have learned that on the job training is a bad idea if we are talking about the President of the United States. I also believe most Americans now should be demanding transparency in government hiring and public policy, and that shadow governments should be illegal. And finally I hope we have learned that it is much easier to start a war than to stop a war.

    The list is much longer especially if we look at deferred problems like rising crime rates and inadequate health care, affordable housing shortages, and the anticipated social problems that so many disabled vets will bring back to our nation. And though I hope we as a nation have learned a few lessons, I am afraid you may be correct and our nation will still gravitate to the quick fix. I guess we do the best we can and hope for a better outcome tomorrow.

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