‘I feel a direction change in the air’

As everyone has surely heard by now, both chambers of Congress fairly easily passed the war-funding supplemental last night. The White House strongly supports the funding package, and Bush will sign it into law, effectively ending this round of the policy fight.

Even before the measure was formally approved, Dems were already talking about looking forward to the next fight.

Democrats may have lost the first round with President Bush on ending the war in Iraq since taking over Congress in January, but they say their fight has just begun.

In the months ahead, lawmakers will vote repeatedly on whether U.S. troops should stay and whether Bush has the authority to continue the war. The Democratic strategy is intended to ratchet up pressure on the president, as well as on moderate Republicans who have grown tired of defending Bush administration policy in a deeply unpopular war.

“I feel a direction change in the air,” said Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record), D-Pa., chairman of the House panel that oversees military funding. […]

“Those of us who oppose this war will be back again and again and again and again until this war has ended,” said Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass.

No one’s come right out and said, “We won’t screw up next time,” but there seems to be an implicit understanding among much of the Democratic leadership that they got spun like a top. They don’t want to see a repeat in the fall, but they don’t seem to fully appreciate how, exactly, they managed to blow this opportunity.

As we’ve noted a few times this week, it all came down to fear. This fight was seen as a political crisis, not a political opportunity. They were afraid of looking weak, afraid of being labeled anti-military, afraid the media would buy into the GOP’s bogus narrative(s), afraid they might suffer in the next election cycle (which is 18 months away).

Bush started this showdown saying, “I’ll accept nothing less than everything I want.” From there, anxiety-ridden Dems said, “We’re willing to negotiate.” Surprise, surprise, the immovable object didn’t move.

If Dems are gearing up for another round, here’s a radical thought: stop being on the defensive.

When Congress approved funding for the war and the troops, Bush vetoed it — and said Congress was denying funding for the war and the troops. Dems denied it, but the pushback was, of course, from a defensive posture. It set the tone for the ensuing post-veto debate.

So, what should the Dems argue? What might offense look like? Kevin Drum explained the virtue of making “a positive case for withdrawal.”

Not just that the war is unwinnable, or that it’s costing too many lives — both of which seem merely defeatist to a lot of people — but that America will be actively better off by getting out of Iraq. I admit that’s a tough case to make, since we liberals have been less than totally candid about acknowledging the almost certain chaos and bloodshed that will follow an American departure. With that in mind, Democrats likely fear that if we forced a withdrawal we’d spend all of 2008 on the defensive as Republicans insisted that Dems were to blame for the ongoing civil war in Iraq. The public, not having been prepared for this, might agree.

But I doubt it. The public wants out, and the death toll is so high now that they’d likely accept that further bloodshed was bound to occur whether we had stayed or not. Unfortunately, Dems don’t have the courage to take that chance.

That’s probably true, but it’s also crazy. The key to the rhetorical debate, it seems to me, is trying to explain to people why withdrawal would help conditions in Iraq. It would undermine our enemies. Polls show Americans support the Dems’ policy anyway; let’s give them a reason why.

Can we give this rhetoric a shot next time around?

“I feel a direction change in the air…”

Me too. I know the funds I have set aside for the DNC, DCCC, DSCC and any one of the Dems who voted for this bill, whom I shall for some time into the future simply refer to as Bush’zBitchz, will be changing direction.

  • The direction change Murtha notes is a loss of Democratic momentum. A weak president with cadre of despised aides managed to win out despite so much going against him.

    What defeated the Dems was their own perceptions of how the PR war was going to go. Sure the Wall St. Journal editorial board would have railed against them and the White House Stenographers Association were going to dutifully transcribe what Karl Rove wanted them to. But the American people who have turned against this administration in droves would have understood. The Democrats need to have the strength of their own convictions and not worry so much about what the corporate media will say about them. History will bear them out just as much as history will savage George Bush.

  • This from an emailer at Andrew Sullivan’s blog sums the next few months up, especially the “magic” month of September:

    Bush said today that we should expect an escalation of violence in Iraq because the enemy know that September is a key date for political opinion. So, let me get this straight: if there is less violence, it obviously means the surge is working, and if there is more violence it means the enemy is desperate to get us out and the surge is working. And the two people who get to decide if the surge is working are the architect of the surge (Petraeus) and the man who gave the surge the go-ahead (Bush). What are the odds we’ll hear in September that the surge is not working?

  • How about this, “By ending the occupation, we will: 1) save Amercian troops’ lives; 2) make America safer by marshalling our resources on the real enemy, Al Qaeda, and 3) make both America and Iraq safer places.”

    It’s all about “ending the occupation,” not “withdrawing.”

  • It is now clear for all to see that the Democrats in Congress lack not only a firm commitment to their own purported convictions, but leadership as well. It is time for Reid to step down in the Senate and Pelosi to step down in the House. Once again, this monomanical president has outwitted, outsmarted, and out-maneuvered them, playing them for the fools they are showing themselves to be.

  • How many more lives, how many more billions of dollars must we spend before we decide to pull the plug on al qaeda’s goldmine for recruiting and fundraising?
    If repubs want to talk about defeat in Iraq, let them. They’ve earned it. It’s their war. It’s their defeat.

  • This last political fight reminds me of one of Gen. Grant’s observations to a group of junior officers at a moment in the Civil War when the junior officers kept offering Gen. Grant advise on what Bobby Lee would do next, or what Bobby Lee would more than be likely up to. Upon hearing so many ideas of what Bobby Lee would do, Grant finally bursted out something to the effect, “I don’t care what you think Bobby Lee is going to do, I care only about defeating Bobby Lee with the things I plan to do.” It seems the Dems need to care more of what they plan to do instead of playing off what they think this WH is going to do.

    The Dems need to cut to the chase and wrap a full fledged troop redeployment into the rhetoric of strategy and benefit to our nation. Mr. Bush fearmongers everywhere he goes, and the Dems need to project a narrative that shows us we are not a fearful nation, and that we can protect our interests without making carnage wherever we go; that we can be strong in the international community through diplomacy and smart military projection into regions of crisis.

    Right now, Mr. Bush has the world community worried that he is out of control in his efforts to capture Iraqi and Irani oil reserves for our nation’s conspicuous consumption – not a very noble cause to project military might, and a tack that could be taken when confronting Mr. Bush’s world view. Just a few early morning thoughts. -Kevo

  • Most Americans want our troops out of Iraq. The Democrats ignored the will of the people to save their political skins, and now Republicans and Democrats are responsible for the Iraq occupation because of the continued funding. It’s that simple … and oh so stupid!

  • After the passage of the initial supplemental bill, the Dems missed a golden opportunity to remind the Republicans that we have representative government, and that if 60-70% of the country is in favor of timelines and phased redeployment, there were clearly members of both the House and the Senate who were not representing the views of the majority of the people they represent.

    Had they hammered that at every opportunity, who knows where things might be now, but with so many caving in and voting “yes” last night, we will never know. As it is, the president who has so vehemently opposed timelines and dates certain never misses an opportunity to talk about the September assessment – it’s like he’s asking the insurgents to make this as bloody and violent a period as possible, so that come September, he can say that (1) we need even more troops and (2) even more time. For him, it won’t be a sign that the surge is not working, but that we just need to do more for a little longer. And there will never be a time when he will admit it isn’t working – that will be the call of the next president.

    On the other hand, I hate to see us playing right into the hands of the GOP and the media, who love nothing more than to trot out the “Dems in disarray” tag at times like this, and that gets easier when it isn’t just disappointment they see, but a fair amount of hopelessness.

    I think the best thing the Dems can do is to get off the defensive, stop “explaining” the politics, and come back again and again and again to Iraq, and force the GOP to answer to their constituents.

  • “…and the media, who love nothing more than to trot out the “Dems in disarray” tag at times like this…”

    And yet despite the media doing so, 70% of the country, including majorities of all “parties,” has looked at the situation, heard what the media has thrust upon them, and decided timelines and benchmarks are good things and should be imposed. The TonedeafDems really need to get their collective heads out of their collective arses.

  • There will always be some terrorist group trying to attack America but the idea of sending troops to their base for them to kill is ludicrous. It’s never been about the troops but about supporting the war profiteers and they make thousands from each soldiers tour x 160-200,000 troops. What is your son’s life worth? To Bush?

    The terrorists are only in Iraq because we are. If we left, the Iraqis would run al queda out of the country. Bush perpetuates al queda to keep the fear tactic going in an effort to keep the funding going for the war profiteers. Bush has no withdrawal plan because he will not withdraw the troops no matter what. If Dems withdrew the funding Bush would leave the soldiers to be killed just to say see what you’ve done.

    No one supports the troops. The Dems failed to support our troops by not stopping the funding and protecting them by getting them oput of this turkey shoot.

    Bush funds the war profiteers and throws the troops without preparation, rest, or protection right into the middle of the turkey shoot to keep the funds to the war profiteers flowing. He is trying to be the “decider” in a civil war and is trying to control Iraq for what He wants not the Iraqis. Troops are expendable.

    No one is supporting the troops and we have to prepare to accept a 1000 more deaths and wounded while our leaders cry for their lost lives.

    The terrorists are not saying look what we’ve done to them they are saying look at what we made them do to themselves. They won the moment we chased them into an ambush and win daily by calling us “chicken” so we stay in the turkey shoot.

    Is Bush a yahoo cowboy and easy to manipulate by just calling him “chicken”, or is it that he knows exactly that that is what his supporters are and he manipulates them to keep funding the war profiteers? Come on you chickens don’t be weak on defense or we will just keep kicking you butt you cowards….and your reaction is???????

    No one is supporting the troops and they will continue to die needlessly.

  • So, now that we know that dems ARE weak – rolling over for Mr. 28% on a war the public hates – who the hell do I vote for?

    Hillary and Mr. B would appear to be off my list. Their no votes don’t mean diddle to me. Both are US Senators, if they had the courage an conviction to lead America back from neo conservative wonderland – they would have put their political careers on the line and stopped the senate.

    But what did they do? Triangulate…

    Makes me want to puke – self serving pathetic shit heads, listening to the same brain dead consultants that have always help dem pols stick their heads in their arses instead of their constituents.

    The GOP is downright greedy, corrupt, and evil – but is guttless, self serving, stupid, and incompetent my only other choice?

    -jjf

  • I’d have to agree with Fitz on Hillary. Obama, I’m not so sure maybe whatever. This vote didn’t cost Hils shit. She knew the vote was going to be in favor of bending over and she did it to “improve’ her “anti” war stance.

    I really shouldn’t have been surprised as this is pretty much the same senate which overwhelmingly reapproved of the Patriot act et al.

  • It’s still Bush’s war. I am happy the democrats failed. I think it looks to the average person that the democrats tried to stop Bush and failed. They are now the party that TRIED to get us out of Iraq. From a purely political perspective it is much better to have tried to get us out vs actually getting us out. If Democrats suceed in redeploying the troops the war becomes their fault. Think how ANY violence and all other problems in Iraq will be portrayed in the media as the Democrats fault because we got the troops out. “If only we hadn’t left there wouldn’t be so many problems.” Worse, any terrorists incident even a scare will brand the Democrats as traitors who left us unsafe. If redeployment doesn’t bring a utopian paradise OVERNIGHT the republicans and the media will scream how bad things are going in Iraq over and over and over again. OVERNIGHT it will become the Democrat war. If tooth decay doesn’t decrease dramatically as a result of redeployment the republicans will talk of treason by Democrats. Bush and the republicans will pivot so fast and dump this war right on the Democrats it will make your head spin.Right or wrong we get the troops out, Iraq is ours – forever. We must let Bush hang himself with all he has caused. In order to stop future bloodshed I am afraid 1000 or more young Americans have to die. What is Bush and what are the republicans thinking? What is their standing going to be 1 year from now when US deaths approach 5000? This war needs to hang around Bush until his polling is 10% and the republicans loose more power. How tough and full of shit can Romney and Guilani be with 5000 dead in Iraq? A trillion dollars spent. If their so dumb and want to keep this war. I say we need to let them. It is admirable that so many liberals, progressives, and Democrats are advocating getting out because it is the right thing to do. I long for the days when doing what is right is possible again.

  • The Democratic leadership needs to treat Bush like the petulant, spoiled child that he is. They need to set clear and firm consequences that the are willing to follow up on, even if everyone is staring at his screaming, spoiled-brat temper tantrum.

  • “The Democrats need to have the strength of their own convictions…”

    Comment by petorado — 5/25/2007 @ 9:10 am

    It’s more evident all the time as to why guys like Trent Lott and Karl Rove are so important to maintaining that herd mentality. RepubCo wouldn’t have been so unified without the mechanical, unwavering instructions from central authority as to what to think, say and how to vote. Lott and Rove were RepubCo’s convictions. Daily instructions were given not to look back, left or right. Straight ahead in the direction that RepubCo was told to go.

    Dems and Repub’s aren’t the same thing. But when it comes to convictions, I think the whole f’n lot of them have feet of clay. Vacillation is the default mode unless someone with titanium cojones takes them by the jacket collar and says “march this way motherf’r”. And as stupid and arrogant and undeserving of respect as Shruby is, he has the ability to stand his ground in service of his convictions, as warped and screwed up as they may be.

    I claim no party affiliation. I am a citizen watching for leadership that I can support from whatever sector. Our gov’t is broken. The politicians are malleable shills. American democracy is teetering on the edge of irrelevance.

  • bubba@1
    Kindly recall that Pelosi and Reid were among DNC chair Dean’s critics not so very long ago. If donations dry up, guess who they’ll want to blame?

    Perhaps more discreet contributions are called for.
    Don’t forget the 44 cents.

  • Cal Seff:

    I’d have to add that the concept of viewing the political ‘upside’ of “5000 dead” would make me even less inclined to vote for someone.

    If someone cannot put aside self serving political interest when fellow citizens are paying with their lives, they do not belong in public service.

    It actually troubles me greatly that I hear talk like yours quite a lot. You’re not spending a 3rd 15 month tour, ripping your family apart. You’re not coming back in a metal coffin or a wheel chair. Your not even paying for the mess, we’ve stuck it on the nation’s credit card…

    We are talking about the lives of hundreds of thousands of human beings, quite literally a hell on earth. To me, when dems triangulate on that – they truly are Republican-lites.

    -jjf

  • Bush (or was it Rummy?) once talked about a “long war,” and I see the struggle to upend modern conservatism as much the same. And even though I was disappointed to see how Congress went on this, I have to pretty much agree with Cal Seff @ 15.

    Dems did more to stand up to Bush than has ever been done before. America saw that they tried, and they saw Bush refuse any accountability and refuse to compromise. Americans also got a very clear glimpse of what an imperial presidency looks like.

    I don’t buy the line that holds Dems responsible for the deaths of American troops and Iraqi civilians between now and September. Bush had two opportunities to sign earlier bills that Dems offered. Not only did he veto them, he vowed to veto them before they were even proposed — and still Dems tried. So, as Call Seff says, Iraq remains Bush’s war.

    I think Dems made a decent — not a great — showing this time around. Let’s see how they use the time between now and September, and what they do in September.

    I wish that political concerns weren’t a factor in these sorts of things, but that is simply the nature of things.

  • As far as the Dems are concerned- I imagine that for some, the porridge was too hot. For others, it was too cold. But never fear, because there is a direction change in the air, and the porridge will eventually be just right. That’s just enough rope to hang ourselves with.

  • “Dems did more to stand up to Bush than has ever been done before.”

    beep52, that’s a pretty low bar. Talk about soft bigotry of low expectations–its like holding the Dems to standards for which we would criticize others.

  • I say send your Senator and Congress person and anyone asking you for cash for the Dems a link to the Olbermann Special Comment from this week: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16270176/

    The only way this could be anything other than a total abdication of responsibility and conscience would be if the Dems had managed to get a minority of their caucuses in both houses to vote against the bill so that it would be the Rethugs who passed it and THE Rethug who signed it. Then they could tie the albatross even more tightly around the Rethugs neck i n ’08. But it is a terrible thing to sacrifice more lives (US and Iraqi) and the billions of dollars that could have been spent on things that might actually address the problems that cause the disaffected to want to fight us, or used to actually try to limit the reach of Al Queda, or used to fix many of the problems we face here at home.

  • and if anyone wants to start the fund for me to primary Boswell, the only Dem in the Iowa delegation to vote the wrong way, I can give you the bank account info. . . or I could just move to Vermont. Lovely state.

  • “that’s a pretty low bar.” — bubba

    Yes, it is, but in terms of standing up to Bush, Congress was starting from zero. I suppose mine is a progress vs perfection point of view. Personally, I would have liked to have seen Dems march down to the WH en mass and camp out in Layfayette Park but that’s just one of many reasons I’d never make it to Congress.

  • Either the Dems seriously underestimated the backlash this will cause, or they didn’t have the votes to send a more palatable bill to that horse’s patootie in the WH. In their defense – and a weak defense it is – for the last six years, the media has been instrumental in propping up this disastrous administration. So Dems might be just a teensy bit gun-shy. This is something they’ve got to get over, and toot-sweet…

    Besides the fact that more Americans will die, that the horror in Iraq – no matter what happens after we leave – is prolonged by another four months, and that we’re flushing another pile of money down the Iraq toilet, I’m most worried about the backlash. I keep hearing people say, Okay, now I’m done with the Democrats. But if they’re done with the Democrats, who exactly are they going to turn to? Independents? There aren’t enough viable Independent candidates to create a majority in Congress. Same goes for the Greens and the Libertarians. See how this might play out? Are you scared yet?

  • This funding bill has never been about supporting the troops but supporting the war profiteers. When will the Dems stop responding to that talking point of voting against funding is not supporting the troops.

    We support the troops not the war profiteers. We would not let them go into the field without rest, equipment, or proper training.

    We would not throw them into the middle of a turkey shoot and keep them there while the profiteers make thousands off each soldiers tour.

    We support the troops by protecting them not by pushing them deeper into the mud of a civil war or by making it profitable to keep them in harm’s way.

    We support the troops by not voting for funds that will be used to get more of them killed needlessly.

    We support the troops by voting for funding that will be used to change the deadly environment surrounding our soldiers.

    We support the troops by not funding their destruction.

  • “or I could just move to Vermont. Lovely state.”

    you’re right, it is a lovely state. and from the comments you have posted here, you’d be very welcome here 🙂

  • Beep52:

    Congress holds the power of the purse. Individual Senators have tremendous power is stopping legislation. They have the power, they have the overwhelming public support – and they lost, to a terrorist (how else do you describe someone who threatens you US troops welfare?)

    If you don’t use all the power at your disposal and you bend over and squeal for Mr. 28% – all against the backdrop of Waxman’s fine work on shedding light on these dirtbags – yes, you are partially responsible. To my way of thinking, Dems have now bought a stake in the war.

    Yes, many folks are self serving sacks of shit. Politics, just like theft and cronyism, is the way of the world. Look here, we have folks talking about something good coming out of the death and sacrifice of American soldiers. But there is such a thing as degree – and there are plenty of examples in history where public figures in the US have put such things aside.

    Had Obama announced an intent to Fillibuster, and given one of his fine speechs about the need to put national security ahead of his own personal political career – I’d have put stacks of cold hard cash on our seeing the first African American president. But instead, I see a second strike in his book (his coy, ‘who me?’ handling of G’s money was the first).

    I’m thinking if ever there was a time for a dark horse to step up and make the rest of the pack look like shit monkeys – this is it. They just need to stock sticking their head in the mountain of utter horse shit that passes for beltway wisdom.

    -jjf

  • mullah cimoc say ameriki needing for remember vietnam war ending.

    when last helicopter fly away usa embassey how long before gun of war go the silent?

    Answer: 3 day and then peace more than 30 years among vietnam people. back then time usa govt and control media say the same lying excuse for continue the kill.

    special important: not the single viet cong coming for attack amerika during all this thirty year.

    now patriotc ameriki man him needing for destroy israeli spy operations in usa start with eliminate neocon spy ops in usa.

    also aemriki need for reading: a man called intrepid by william stevenson and inside the company, a cia diary by phillip agee. then ameriki understand why usa media so control, keep ameriki so stupid.

    then ameriki becoming the free again, him daughter not to take the LBT (low back tattoo), and becoming the slut for every man even the gang member.

    Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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