Maybe he just needs some time to get to know us better

About a year ago, the AP’s Jennifer Loven wrote a terrific item about the president relying on non-existent straw men to get through most policy arguments. As Loven explained in March 2006, when the president “starts a sentence with ‘some say’ or offers up what ‘some in Washington’ believe, as he is doing more often these days, a rhetorical retort almost assuredly follows…. In describing what they advocate, Bush often omits an important nuance or substitutes an extreme stance that bears little resemblance to their actual position.”

At the time, conservatives were outraged that a reporter at a major news outlet would have the audacity to report on something that … is entirely true and newsworthy. How dare a journalist engage in fact-checking when the president is trying to mislead people?

With this in mind, the right probably won’t care for today’s Loven piece, either.

Confronted with strong opposition to his Iraq policies, President Bush decides to interpret public opinion his own way. Actually, he says, people agree with him. […]

[At a White House press conference last week,] Bush said: “I recognize there are a handful there, or some, who just say, ‘Get out, you know, it’s just not worth it. Let’s just leave.’ I strongly disagree with that attitude. Most Americans do as well.”

In fact, polls show Americans do not disagree, and that leaving — not winning — is their main goal.

In one released Friday by CBS and the New York Times, 63 percent supported a troop withdrawal timetable of sometime next year. Another earlier this month from USA Today and Gallup found 59 percent backing a withdrawal deadline that the U.S. should stick to no matter what’s happening in Iraq.

The AP’s list of recent examples is rather long, with the president and his aides consistently fabricating public support that simply doesn’t exist.

Bush could say, “The public and I are on different pages, but we all want what’s best for the country. I’m the president (The Decider) and I have to stick to my policy whether Americans support it or not.” There’s a certain honor in this approach. It’s still wrong, but if he stuck to this line, at least it would be honest.

But the White House prefers a different path. When the polls show results they don’t like, they make up new ones.

Bush aides say poll questions are asked so many ways, and often so imprecisely, that it is impossible to conclude that most Americans really want to get out. Failure, Bush says, is not what the public wants — they just don’t fully understand that that is just what they will get if troops are pulled out before the Iraqi government is capable of keeping the country stable on its own. […]

Independent pollster Andrew Kohut said of the White House view: “I don’t see what they’re talking about.”

“They want to know when American troops are going to leave,” Kohut, director of the nonpartisan Pew Research Center, said of the public. “They certainly want to win. But their hopes have been dashed.”

Kohut has found it notable that there’s such a consensus in poll findings.

“When the public hasn’t made up its mind or hasn’t thought about things, there’s a lot of variation in the polls,” he said. “But there’s a fair amount of agreement now.”

I don’t think the White House line is a result of dishonesty so much as it’s just denial. I suspect Bush, Cheney, Tony Snow, Karl Rove, and others simply can’t imagine a strong majority of the country rejecting the president’s policy this forcefully. They make obviously false assertions about public opinion probably not to deceive, but because it’s more in line with what they want to believe.

It’s kind of sad, actually.

Monarchs use the word “we” (as in “we are not amused”), the way George uses the words “.Most Americans”.
The emperor creates consensus by his own imperial edict.

  • Since when has Rove been unable to read an opinion poll? These are all men that are capable of seeing that their conquest of Iraq is going poorly. Poorly enough that Cheney is doing all he can to provoke a war with Iran. Their overarching goal remains US control of major oil reserves in the Middle East. Pulling troops out moves away from that goal and building permanent bases and increasing troop levels moves them closer. It is up to the American people of all political beliefs to raise a stink and insist that our troops come home and that we stop supporting private contractors in Iraq.

  • If it is, as CB suggests, that Bush is in denial rather than just fabricating lies out his *ss, it’s because Bush’s ever shrinking cirlce always agrees with him. Heck, everyone that Bush talks to agree with him, therefore so do most Americans. In a den of thieves, every crime is justifiable. Either way, it’s a staggering case of intellectual dishonesty.

  • Perhaps this is the reason that the White House is so desperate to protect Rove. The Commander Guy knows that Karl (AKA Rasputin Turd) is smart, and trusts him. So, when Turd Blossum tells AWOL McFightSuit that most “real” Americans are for the war, W believes him.

    I believe that Georgie-poo would experience something like Neo taking the red pill if Rove left.

    Boy, would I like to see that, huh?

  • Remember this?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1255665600en=890a96189e162076ei=5090

    The aide said that guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality…”

    Ron Suskind heard this from a Bushie back in 2002. He recounted the conversation in 2004. Nothing has changed. Nothing. At. All. None of what comes out of Bush’s mouth should surprise you.

    This is the Potemkin administration, a bunch of amoral voyeurs. They see what they want to see, they say what they want to say, they do what they want to do. Reality is for the little people who have to live with it.

  • The only thing Bush catapults is propaganda. Some of it, he truly believes, the rest he wants us to believe to keep him from looking bad or from seeing what his true intentions are. Either way, it doesn’t matter. It’s all propaganda.

  • Bush, Cheney, Gone-zales, Rove, et al are all international criminals, period. Of course international criminals lie. They also obfuscate, deceive, conceal, distort and cover-up the truth (see 9/11 Commission).

    Impeach. Them. All. That’s all I got.

  • I don’t think the White House line is a result of dishonesty so much as it’s just denial. I suspect Bush, Cheney, Tony Snow, Karl Rove, and others simply can’t imagine a strong majority of the country rejecting the president’s policy this forcefully.

    Quit trying to make out these guys don’t know exactly what the polls are saying or what the public wants. They are dishonest. Success to Bush is prolonging this occupation as long as possible because of the huge profits it engenders. He has a political goal in mind and it has little to do with the Iraqis.

    By increasing the troop deployment to Iraq by an additional 30,000 men, He can slowly withdraw troops in Sept and still keep the surge strength in place. He will prolong it till the ’08 elections and then follow the Democrats plan to redeploy and claim success for his policies in order to win elections for Republicans. He will say, “See, if we had done what those chicken Democrats wanted and ended this “war” back then we would have lost and failed”. When indeed he has already lost and his policy failed. He will offer the thousands he has caused to be slaughtered as “the great sacrifice” and how proud he is of them etc.. Bush doesn’t give a damn about the lives of troops or the Iraqis. He wants the oil agreements and to blame the war on the Democrats. It’s one big political power game to this insidious group and they know exactly what they are doing.

    The only true Republicans are the ones who voted against the Iraq funding bill. The same is true with the Democrats. The true colors of both parties have been shown. The ‘splurge is just an increase in “stay the course” and it doesn’t have a thing to do with “supporting the troops”, or what the public wants.

  • He speaks **only** to the base with those flim-flams. The remaining deluded Bush supporters need those distorted morsels of pap from the Mothership to reinforce their fantasies. Decent Americans (including CB fans here) can cut through this chaff, but it’s absolutely astounding to see the ‘true believers’ still stuck in denial about the Bush-ian failure.

    Read on:

    Role model Bush a modern-day Roy Rogers

    …snip…
    Thank you for being a perfect role model of husband, father, leader and friend. For not being offended when unkind remarks are made against your intelligence. You could boast that you are a Harvard graduate, which is documented. But you have too much class for that.
    …end snip…

  • If it’s up to Bush the troops will never come home…how can there be a “victory” ? What will that look like? What he wants is troops to protect the oil…and let the Iraqi’s all die or whatever…cause if he has the oil…nothing else matters. And lets hope that the Dems are not on the take! If they are…we’re lost.

  • From now on, every time our President uses the phrase “most Americans” in this way, the White House Press Corps should insist that Tony Snow produce the actual polling data behind that assertion. Mr. Bush’s claims regarding public opinion are highly suspect and should be assessed for truth or falsity.

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