Guess who called Karl Rove’s political strategy ‘maniacally dumb’?

That New Yorker story on the implosion of the GOP is the gift that keeps on giving.

President Bush has presided over a Republican Party in “collapse,” and Karl Rove’s strategy in the 2004 presidential election was “maniacally dumb” for focusing so heavily on the conservative base.

The words, perhaps, of Howard Dean, the Democratic national chairman? Or John Edwards? Nancy Pelosi, maybe?

None of the above.

That harsh assessment of the president and his chief political adviser is being offered rather by former Representative Newt Gingrich, who engineered the Republicans’ Congressional election victory of 1994 and went on to become speaker of the House.

Indeed, Gingrich unloads on his party in the interview with The New Yorker.

“Let me be clear: twenty-eight-per-cent approval of the President, losing every closely contested Senate seat except one, every one that involved an incumbent — that’s a collapse,” he explains. “I mean, look at the Northeast. You can’t be a governing national party and write off entire regions.”

What’s more, Gingrich directly blames Rove for running a 2004 campaign that left Bush with no political capital. By running a relentlessly negative campaign, Rove/Bush had no real mandate for any policies or agenda. “All he proved was that the anti-Kerry vote was bigger than the anti-Bush vote,” Gingrich said. He continued, “The Bush people deliberately could not bring themselves to wage a campaign of choice” — of ideology, of suggesting that Kerry was “to the left of Ted Kennedy” — and chose instead to attack Kerry’s war record.

Gingrich also blasts Tom DeLay-led Republicans in the 109th for what’s called the “second-order effect of base mobilization” (by motivating the base, a party suffers by alienating everyone else). This was particularly true, Gingrich says, when DeLay intervened in the Terri Schiavo matter, which appalled “America’s natural majority.”

DeLay, in turn, blasted Gingrich right back.

“The Schiavo case was one of my proudest moments in Congress,” Tom DeLay [said]…. In [his] book, DeLay criticizes Gingrich for, among other things, conducting an affair with a Capitol Hill employee during the 1998 impeachment trial of Bill Clinton. (The woman later became Gingrich’s third wife.) “Yes, I don’t think that Newt could set a high moral standard, a high moral tone, during that moment,” DeLay said. “You can’t do that if you’re keeping secrets about your own adulterous affairs.” He added that the impeachment trial was another of his “proudest moments.” The difference between his own adultery and Gingrich’s, he said, “is that I was no longer committing adultery by that time, the impeachment trial. There’s a big difference.” He added, “Also, I had returned to Christ and repented my sins by that time.”

In fact, DeLay speaks of Gingrich with undisguised contempt. “He’s got this new shtick now — ‘solutions,’ he calls it, like government is the new solution. Government isn’t the solution; it’s the problem.” DeLay smiled. “Did you see that he had a love match with John Kerry on global warming?” he said. “That’s not going to help him with the Presidential race.”

If it sounds to you like the GOP is coming apart at the seams, well, we’re on the same page.

I guess Bush succeeded in being a “uniter, not a divider” about as well as he succeeeded in everything else.

Sweet Jesus, Tom Delay is a contemptible piece of shit.

  • “I guess Bush succeeded in being a “uniter, not a divider” about as well as he succeeeded in everything else.” — CB

    I don’t know about that. After six plus years, Bush seems to be doing a pretty good job of uniting the country in its negative opinion of him.

  • And there we have it: “Government isn’t the solution, it’s the problem.”

    If these republicans are so anti-government, perhaps they can use all of their war profiteering blood money, handouts from big-pharma and insurance, as well as big oil, and move to the Marianas, where they can establish a nation with no government, or what we have here in the U.S. – a corporatocracy.

    The fact that DeLay STILL has some sort of national prominence is proof that there are a lot of dumb mother fuckers in this country.

  • The Republicans’ real problem is one I’ve long attributed to them – they are wrong about everything. Their wars are going badly, their economy only works well for big investors, they have no ideas or credibility for dealing with climate change peak oil, nuclear proliferation etc., and they are deliberately destroying the government’s ability to function right at a time when we’re going to need it most. Even their base is getting pissed at them thanks to incoherent immigration policy.

    That massive “wrong track” polling number is one they earned.

    Rove may be in the saddle, but it’s the horse that’s losing the GOP’s race for them, not the jockey.

  • BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!

    I love the sound of a circular firing squad in the morning–it sounds like victory.

  • So the two top moralizers in the Republican party are reduced to saying their adultery was better than another person’s adultery during a time when both were impeaching a president for … adultery? This is funny! Let the throwing stones at glass houses begin!

  • The difference between his own adultery and Gingrich’s, he said, “is that I was no longer committing adultery by that time, the impeachment trial.

    So all I have to do is stop committing adultery before an impeachment trial begins and then ask Jesus to forgive me…. I don’t remember those rules being laid out in the bible Tom, but if you say so…

  • Bedwetting bullies with small dicks -all of ’em, and somebody’s beating up on them.

    Like all pathetic schoolyard bullies, they can dish it out, but they can’t take it.

  • To see two rabid mouth-foamers like Gingrich and Delay cannibalize each other just breaks my heart. They must know that the success of the Reich Wing requires their unequivocal lockstep. What would Dear Leader say?

  • “Also, I had returned to Christ and repented my sins by that time.”

    Uh, Tom, Jesus Christ called and he wants his repentance back.

    Tom’s “it’s not a crime in Texas” excuse on the Colbert Report didn’t wash either.

  • I would love to see progressives seize this moment to try and to repair the public image of government. It would take courage, it could backfire, but there will be no better time to run a campaign that shows Delay and Nordquist’s words about government being the “problem, not the solution” and then show New Orleans in ruins. Ask the question “perhaps leaders who believe in the power of government to help could have provided a solution for New Orleans when no one else would.” Show a Kansas town decimated by tornadoes with the same message. Ask the rhetorical question “maybe when government officials see government as the enemy, they really can’t govern very well” and show headlines about the failure of planning in the Iraq war, the failure of intelligence in 9/11, and the list of conservative indictments, scandals, cronies etc.

    At some point, someone needs to stand up and shake the American public and say “stop buying the sound bite nonsense about your government being the enemy! It doesn’t have to be that way – thats just what the rich and the corporations want you to believe!”

  • They’re coming apart at the seam, between the seams, in places where seams haven’t even been dreamed of yet—in short, they’re like a great big Alka seltzer tablet that’s been dropped into water: Lots of fizz, a couple of belches, and no more national indigestion. beeter warn those “base” states comprising the former Confederacy—their “Appomattox” is getting awfully close, and Rove/Cheney/Bush/DeLay can’t hold a candle to “Bobby Lee….”

  • Ummm—that should be “Better” instead of “beeter”—although the GOp is sort of devolving into a nasty-looking “borsht” concoction….

  • “second-order effect of base mobilization”

    Funny to hear Newt realize that actions actually have consequences. Now is he able to contemplate the “second order effect of the war on terror” that his party has brought to the world.

  • “I mean, look at the Northeast. You can’t be a governing national party and write off entire regions.”

    Newt delivered Congress to the Republicans by shutting up the religious nutjobs in charge of congress now and focussing on economics. The real estate of politics: Low taxes, low taxes, low taxes.

    In the majority, the religious wingnuts actually started getting their Christian agenda imposed on our nation of diverse faiths and soured the mood in places like the Northeast where Republicans could shelter themselves with a socially liberal agenda.

    The Democrats must tolerate pro-life representatives in the South and pro-gun reps in the west to secure their future. Gingrich was a master of coalition strategy and the Democrats could easily use the same method. There’s far more of us than there are of them if we can recognize the regional sensitivities that progressives don’t naturally embrace.

  • Zeitgeist is totally right.

    Government is not the enemy. Incompetent government is.

  • CB, thanks for another thrilling episode of my favourite show: ReThuglican Arseholes Eat Their Own. If Newtie decides to run Rove will lie, cheat, kill and steal to get on an opposing candidate’s campaign team.

    As far as “We has met the enemy and they is government” it reminds me of the misquote that states money is the root of all evil. No, it’s the love of money. Money does no harm until some bastard gets greedy.

    By the same token “the government” is never bad. It takes creeps and fuck ups to make it bad. Cretins like Newter and The Bug Man of Alcatraz want you to believe there is a big scary Government Juggernaut that rolls around crushing everything in its path. They don’t want you to think about the drunk behind the wheel.

    They also want you to believe they’ve learned to keep it in their pants (and anyway, it’s different when they take it out of their pants) and in Bug Man’s case, he doesn’t belong behind bars.

    Scoff. Scoff. Scoff, I say!

  • What Zeitgeist said in #12.

    Funny how when people who hate government get into power the governenment runs so poorly.

    But will their base ever figure this out? Nope.

  • Gingrich’s remarks about Rove also prove the point that he, and Bush, were really only interested in getting Bush elected and reelected. If the base of the Republican Party suffered by Rove and Bush’s actions, then so be it.

    Rove and Bush were, and are, only out for themselves. When will the Republican Senators and Congressmen recognize this and not keep sticking up for the Administrations ruinous actions, both here and in Iraq?

  • That is such a telling segment CB. What are these people thinking? My adultery is better than his because I confessed and got a pass? These people have the most skewed version of the Gospel I have ever encountered. Isn’t forgiveness something that must be reciprocated (eg: forgives us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us) and aren’t Christians supposed to not judge each other? (Judge not least you judge yourself) Sick Sick Sick!

    Their contempt for government is also telling, and I wonder why they want to serve if they feel their service does no good. Perhaps they should let the people, Republican and Democratic, who believe in the value of a strong federal system and integrity in government, to do the serving

  • Too bad for us that the 28%ers will still follow the Corporate media, no matter how nonsensical or inconsistant it is.
    Witness the coronation of Roodee, and his acceptance by the virulently anti-abortion sheep.Throw in the non-informed “independants” and the Judas-Americans like JRS, Jr (take your 30 pieces of tax cuts), and you can see that we are still in danger of the Republican’ts holding power
    This current situation looks great to us, but how much difference will it really make?

  • Jesus Christ now works for Tom Delay. And he wants the GOP to pay his salary. He’s retained Jesus to keep him out of jail and attack his enemies. Soon he will show us how Jesus “really” saves…money. Delay is lower than a snake.

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