Appeals court rejects warrantless-search case

Almost a year ago, U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit became the first judge to strike down the president’s warrantless-domestic search program. “In this case, the President has acted, undisputedly, as FISA forbids. FISA is the expressed statutory policy of our Congress,” Taylor wrote. “The presidential power, therefore, was exercised at its lowest ebb and cannot be sustained.”

Today, in a 2-1 ruling, the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals reversed the ruling and dismissed the lawsuit. The ruling wasn’t based on the merits, but rather, whether the plaintiffs had standing to file suit.

U.S. Circuit Judge Julia Smith Gibbons, one of the two Republican appointees who ruled against the plaintiffs, said they failed to show they were subject to the surveillance.

The dissenting judge, Democratic appointee Ronald Lee Gilman, believed the plaintiffs were within their rights to sue and that it was clear to him the program violated the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978.

Although the Bush administration said in January the program is now overseen by a special federal intelligence court, opponents said that without a court order, the president could resume the spying outside judicial authority at any time. The Justice Department has said the case is moot.

The American Civil Liberties Union filed the lawsuit on behalf of journalists, scholars, and lawyers who argued the program made it difficult for them to do their jobs. They have international contacts they speak with regularly by phone, and these contacts are likely targets of Bush’s NSA program.

To the two Republican-appointed judges on the 6th Circuit, it apparently didn’t matter.

Looking at the big picture, today’s ruling is a setback, not only for the specific litigants, but to getting any kind of answers. Is the surveillance program legal? The court didn’t say. Were the plaintiffs’ calls monitored? The court didn’t say.

Who does have standing to challenge the legality of the program? Not only did the court not say, but it leads to a deeper problem.

To hear the 6th Circuit tell it, you can’t file suit unless you know you’ve been subject to the surveillance. And how do you know if you’ve been spied on? You’d have to get that information from the Bush administration, which keeps all of that information secret.

So how is it even possible for anyone to challenge the legality of the program? As lambert explained, it’s a bit of a Catch 22.

To grossly oversimplify:

Bush regime: “We’re going to secretly surveil all green people without a warrant, because we don’t need no steenkin’ court system.”

The ACLU says: “Fine! That gives Kermit the Frog, here, standing to sue to get his Fourth Amendment rights back!”

Bush regime: “Oh, no you don’t! Kermit may be green, but he still has to personally prove he was spied on!”

The ACLU: “It’s a secret program! Kermit can’t do that!”

Bush regime: “And your point is?”

The ACLU is considering an appeal to the Supreme Court. Stay tuned.

I think you mean Kermit would have to prove he was spied on

  • We know four on the court have no conscience, and four have a very strong conscience. It all rests on Justice Anthony Kennedy, who occasionally shows some conscience. Unfortunately, now he has become the swing vote. A sad state for us.

  • “…Julia Smith Gibbons…said they failed to show they were subject to the surveillance.”

    Julia! You idiot! Obviously we’re all “subject to the surveillance!” That includes you Julia! Duh!

  • So I guess if Bush had a secret program that allowed him to steal money out of anyone’s 401k, and he announced as much, none of us would have any grounds to sue him because we couldn’t prove that he was stealing out of our 401k.

    What are these “conservatives” smoking?

    I mean W…T…F???

  • Haik wrote: “That includes you Julia! Duh!”

    At this stage, I’m cynical enough to believe that she ruled the way she did because of a phone call from BushJustice saying, “We know what you’ve been doing in your private time…”

  • The ACLU is considering an appeal to the Supreme Court. Stay tuned.

    No need to stay tuned; the show is a re-run. The Supreme Court just protected Bushie’s faith-based initiatives from review by finding taxpayers in general do not have standing. Similarly, they will protect Bushie’s spy-on-everyone programs by saying these representative organizations like ACLU have no standing. No sense holding out hope for an appeal.

    This has been your Pessimism for the Day for Friday, July 6, 2007.

  • sadly, i feared this very outcome when the suit was first filed. the catch-22 is perfect; the idea that there are judges who would subscribe to this catch-22 is sickening but not surprising.

  • gg wrote:

    At this stage, I’m cynical enough to believe that she ruled the way she did because of a phone call from BushJustice saying, “We know what you’ve been doing in your private time…”

    Would that include watching 70 types of porn at various Marriott hotels?

  • How can anyone believe Bush anymore? All information has been gathered but is not read unless it becomes pertinent. Then of course there’s the WH info or RNC info that somehow they no longer can find…whoops.
    Bush will not admit to anything that might incriminate him. He works outside the law then refuses to allow oversight when he claims he doesn’t operate that way anymore, and he doesn’t care who knows it.
    It’s like he is saying, “So what. If it were that illegal some body would stop me.”

    The 6th circuit crt of appeals Gibbons states that the program is illegal and breaks the FISA law but says the ACLU itself doesn’t have the right to sue without really saying who does have the right to sue. So they are reversing a decision on a technicality while still admitting it’s illegal for Bush to operate this way.
    So the issue now is who has the right to Bush from continuing this illegal activity. Only someone who can prove they were a victim of this illegal activity. If it goes to the SC the ACLU must prove it has the right to speak for all the victims.

    But all through these appeals the one thing agreed on is that the activity of the Bush administration’s eavesdropping is illegal, that it goes against FISA laws and the 4th amendment.
    But because of its secrecy no one can prove who its victims are, and the victims are the only ones who can sue them to stop it. The TSP program is illegal according the opinions of the Judges so this decision is not about its legality but just who can sue to stop it….How screwed up is that?

    Impeachment….it’s about time. I’m sick of living in fear of what this president might do next. It’s the right thing to do now because every week there is another constitutional violation

  • I think you mean Kermit would have to prove he was spied on

    Fixed (here and in lambert’s original)

  • Well, if Kermit doesn’t have anything to hide, then Kermit has nothing to worry about. And he really can’t expect the rest of us right-thinking Americans to stand up for his rights when he just uses them to covert with pigs, instead of his own kind, frogs. Perv.

  • I am afraid that the damage done by the neo-cons with Georgie-Boy at the helm will take several miracles and probably fifty years to undo. Another sad day for the people.

  • The sister wrote: “Would that include watching 70 types of porn at various Marriott hotels?”

    Ah! It’s all coming together now… (no pun intended, really…)

  • When the Revolution comes these courts and Bush Administration types will have No standing.

  • Some article or other I read yesterday, I think it might have been “Editor and Publisher”, had it right. Bush doesn’t care what anybody thinks, and any of his policies Congress lacks the will or means to stop him from doing, he will implement. He recognizes no authority but God’s, and he’s completely crazy so he thinks God agrees with him. Congress has to take off the gloves, if it actually has any power at all to rein in this lunatic, and physically stop him from carrying out policy initiatives that are contrary to the will of the people. If it cannot do that, it should be honest and say so; “we know what the president is doing is wrong and, in some cases, illegal. However, he has gathered unto himself such powers that we are unable to restrain him, and consequently must hope for the best until his vile regime runs out”.

  • So, in the future, the president’s “warrantless-domestic*” search program” is squelched. Hooray for the ACLU. After the next 911 attack, they can look over the bodies and congratulate themselves that at least their phones weren’t tapped.

    *Calling it a “domestic” search doesn’t make it so

    Polish Proud
    Denver, CO

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