Fielding to Dems: Stop being mean

Following up on the news that the White House is once again thumbing its nose at Congress, it’s also worth taking a moment to note some of the details of Fred Fielding’s letter to the House and Senate Judiciary Committees this morning. Specifically, I’m fascinated by Fielding’s concerns about etiquette.

Let me begin by conveying a note of concern over your letter’s tone and apparent direction in dealing with a situation of this gravity. We are troubled to read the letter’s charge that the President’s “assertion of Executive Privilege belies any good faith attempt to determine where privilege truly does and does not apply.”

Although we each speak on behalf of different branches of government, and perhaps for that reason cannot help having different perspectives on the matter, it is hoped you will agree, upon further reflection, that it is incorrect to say that the President’s assertion of Executive Privilege was performed without “good faith.”

Yes, the president is refusing to cooperate, he’s taking an expansive view of executive privilege, he’s blocking willing witnesses from honoring a subpoena, he’s withholding relevant materials, and he’s impinging on an ongoing congressional investigation, but there’s no reason for Leahy and Conyers to take an unpleasant “tone” with the White House. (The Vice President was the one who told Leahy, “Go f*** yourself,” right? Just checking.)

Fielding’s letter implicitly suggests Bush deserves the benefit of the doubt. Leahy and Conyers are assuming that the president is claiming executive privilege without “good faith.” Fielding wants them to assume otherwise. The White House could resolve the issue by explaining how and why Bush is claiming privilege, but so far, they’re refusing.

But Dems should just assume that they’re dealing with honorable men anyway. After all, the Bush gang has a track record for decency and veracity, right?

Fielding added:

One final observation underscores the preordained futility of any White House compliance with this demand. When your letter states that your Committees ”will take the necessary steps to rule on [Bush’s] privilege claims and appropriately enforce our subpoenas” and that the Committees will enforce their subpoenas “[wjhether or not [they] have the benefit of the information” [emphasis added], only one conclusion is evident: the Committees have already prejudged the question, regardless of the production of any privilege log. In such circumstances, we will not be undertaking such a project, even as a further accommodation.

It’s quite an odd argument. As Conyers responded:

We are extremely disappointed with the White House letter. While we remain willing to negotiate with the White House, they adhere to their unacceptable all-or-nothing position, and now will not even seek to properly justify their privilege claims. Contrary to what the White House may believe, it is the Congress and the Courts that will decide whether an invocation of Executive Privilege is valid, not the White House unilaterally.

Leahy added, “I have to wonder if the White House’s refusal to provide a detailed basis for this executive privilege claim has more to do with its inability to craft an effective one.”

Now, now, senator — you don’t want another lecture on tone, now do you?

Re: RNC emails

I really don’t understand why people like Karl Rove can’t be forced into a lose-lose situation concerning RNC emails.

Choice 1) Either Rove broke the law using RNC emails for official White House business or
Choice 2) The emails Rove sent using RNC emails CAN NOT be covered by executive priveledge since they were not used for official White House business.

What am I missing?

  • Shorter FF:

    I got nothin’.

    But now we know what it takes to turn a White House full of swaggering bullies into WATBs – A one seat majority in the Senate.

    Pity the GOPs trained Das Base to associate whining with the Democrats. Whiners weak, White House is strong. Rrrr! Red meat! But now White House whine. White House weak? Rrrr! No like White House. Like … Thompson. Smells nice.

  • As anyone who enjoys debate knows, attacking the person (ad hominum attacks) and going meta (discussing the tone of the discussion — not the content) are two common ways of admitting (read: not admitting) that one has lost the argument. Notice how often this is what certain people do? Nuff said.

  • How uncivil of Democrats to want the constitution upheld and defended.

    That’s just mean.

    If Fielding wants a “compromise” somewhere between violating the constitution and defending it, the Dems should refer him to Cheney’s GFY statement.

  • Fielding was Nixon’s lawyer after John Dean was fired and he destroyed evidence rather than turn it over to congress. The man has no integrity and adheres to the law only when it helps him win, otherwise he doesn’t give a sh** about the rule of law or “justice”. For the WH to have hired this man to defend them is almost an admission of guilt.

    The WH will block, stall, impede oversight… destroy incriminating evidence and refuse to comply or cooperate with the investigations of Congress.

    So I have a hard time understanding why the congress just doesn’t go ahead and impeach these guys (besides the usual too inconvenient detract from policy making and may not be successful in the senate excuses). I mean if they want to make them accountable, get a special prosecutor assigned and force subpoena compliance.

    Fielding is corrupt and will break the law to “win”. He’s certainly not doing it for the money or a sense of dedication to the Bush cause. “Winning” at any cost…that’s Fielding.

  • It is nothing short of totalitarianism and tyranny for the President of the United States to insinuate that he has the “privilege” to conduct the business of We, The People, in secret and without the legitimate oversight of the Congress in its Constitutional role as a co-equal Branch of the Federal Government.

    Let’s face it. We live under a “Constitutional Republic” only in name now. The Loyal Bushie Brownshirt Cabal has created a precedent for American Tyranny and there is scarcely any American “leadership” to suggest that this is a very bad precedent.

    Again, where is Obama? Where is Clinton? Where is Edwards?

    Accountability without consequence is just lip-service.

    What are Obama, Clinton, and Edwards doing to inform the American Public of this terrible precedent set by Dick&Bush? Aren’t they citizens too? What are Obama, Clinton, and Edwards doing to preserve American Democracy and our Constitutional Republic?

  • Good manners: the last refuge of a scoundrel.

    How Republicans can sh*t on the Constitution and this nation on a daily basis and whn called on their actions can get all huffy about the “tone” taken by the one calling them out is beyond me. But then again an awful lot of truly abhorent people doing increadily evil things have been known to wrap themselves in a veneer of civility.

  • Note to Fred Fielding:

    Better start putting more starch in your shirts, Freddie. The sweat stains are starting to show.

    Love, Curmudgeon

  • If you look at how many former Nixon aides and associates are involved in the Bush White House, a lot of it makes sense. They learned nothing from Watergate, they wanted another chance to destroy our constitution. If they are not impeached, they will have won.

    What does it take? I called my congresspeople, and call on everyone else to do the same. We did it during Watergate; the congress didn’t want to act on that one, either. Finally, we made so much noise that they had to act.

    As for presidental Candidates, the only one mentioning any of the constitutional crisis we face is Dennis Kucinich. He is also introducing a bill of impeachment in the house. He is the only one talking about restoration of our civil rights, such as habeus corpus. Why isn’t he more popular? Corporate America (they control TV news) are afraid of him, that’s why.

    It’s time to DEMAND IMPEACHMENT!

  • The problem with spending decades playing nice is that it makes your opponents think you’re going to keep doing it, and that you can be persuaded to “stop being mean” by being told, “Hey, you’re being mean!” (kind of like the standard GOP campaign complaint to the media, “Mommmeeee! Kerry said something bad about me, make him stop!” which all too often lead Kerry (or, not to pick on one candidate too much, whichever Dem is “being mean”) to back off of their original charge – when Republicans complain that we’re being mean, that means we’re doing something *RIGHT*, dammit.)

    Nobody who would fall for Fielding’s shit belongs in any position of partisan power. Let’s hope everyone in the party realizes that…

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