Where are Lieberman’s complaints?

I’m pleased to see the White House willing to engage Tehran in bilateral discussions, particularly on the issue of security in Iraq, but I have to wonder, isn’t this the kind of thing that should drive the neocons batty?

The United States and Iran will hold a second round of direct talks to discuss Iraq’s worsening security situation as early as Tuesday, even as U.S. military commanders continue to accuse Iranian operatives of fomenting the instability.

Iraq’s foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, told news services Sunday that the two sides will sit down together on Tuesday, a date confirmed by U.S. Embassy officials in Baghdad.

The announcement came as the U.S. military said it had detained two alleged weapons smugglers with suspected links to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard’s elite al-Quds Force. Weapons were confiscated during a pre-dawn raid Sunday on a farm compound east of Baghdad near the Iranian border, the military said. The suspects, the military said, were allegedly smuggling the armor-piercing roadside bombs that have killed many American soldiers.

The news comes the same day we learn that the Bush administration has cleared about 3,500 Iranians for immigration into the United States in the last nine months, quadruple the number of Iraqis the administration has accepted.

I gather from all of this that Rice is beating Cheney to Bush’s ear, at least for the time being, but where is all the conservative complaining? Shouldn’t Lieberman and his allies be denouncing the administration’s tactics?

The U.S. has captured two suspected weapons smugglers with possible ties to Iran’s elite al-Quds Force. The Senate just passed, unanimously, a resolution censuring Iran “for what it said was complicity in the killing of U.S. soldiers in Iraq.” Sen. Sam Brownback appeared on Fox News a few days ago, declaring that he is ready to preemptively strike Iran.

Joe Lieberman has practically been begging for a military confrontation.

Last month, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) argued on CBS’s Face the Nation, that the U.S. should “be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq.” “If there’s any hope” of stopping Iran’s nuclear program, “we can’t just talk to them…. We’ve got to use our force and to me that would include taking military action.”

[Three weeks ago] in a Wall Street Journal op-ed, Lieberman writes, “[E]very leader [in Washington] has a responsibility to acknowledge that … the Iranian government … has all but declared war on us and our allies in the Middle East.” He argues that the use of force against Iran is needed for one primary reason — to temper Iran’s “expansionist” desires to “dominate” its neighbors.

As far as the neocons are concerned, Iran is already responsible for killing Americans on the battlefield and backing terrorist attacks on U.S. interests. The Bush administration is responding with … bilateral diplomatic discussions?

To be sure, I’m glad the White House is resisting, at least so far, starting another reckless war, but shouldn’t the same people who are demanding a confrontation be condemning Bush for talking to the enemy? If President Kerry responded to Iranian attacks on Americans with another diplomatic sit-down, do you suppose the right would have something to say about it?

isn’t this the kind of thing that should drive the neocons batty?

No. They don’t have to stay consistant. Bush is their guy. He can do what ever the hell he wants. WHATEVER THE HELL HE WANTS. Get it?

  • I’m really sick and fucking tired of these psycho mouthpieces who want war like a junkie wants their next fix, but not willing to put their own asses and considerable resources on the line.

    Hey Snuffie Joe. Lead the first wave, you asshole. Show us how tough you really are. I want to see you ride the first bomb down like Major Kong screaming like a yahoo.

  • Maybe Lieberman is gnashing his teeth over the fact that he thought he was being a good little lapdog, getting out in front and barking the neocon message – just like Dick told him to – and after being blasted all over the place for doing it, he thought he was going to be getting a “treat” – war with Iran. After all, when has the administration ever cared what the people wanted or thought about things like war? It had to be practically a slam-dunk, right? But, no – George picks this time to start listening to Condi, for cryin’ out loud.

    I mean, first he pastes himself to McCain, thinking either that he would switch parties to be on a McCain ticket, or maybe they could do that “Unity ‘08” thing that seemed kind of cool. Then McCain starts tanking, so there goes that plan. Then, he starts hearing that Romney wants to double the size of Gitmo, and Giuilani is talking tough, so he decides to go deeply hawkish, and hope that one of them will think he is cute enough to be one of the cool kids. Look for him to start sending love letters to Fred Thompson as soon as he officially gets into the race.

    Joe Lieberman cares about one thing, and one thing only: Joe Lieberman. So whatever he says and whatever he does, look for the Lieberman benefit, and you will find your answer.

    Oh, and can I just say, “Thanks so much, Connecticut.”

  • The right respects positions authority, and fears Cheney-Rove. The predictable thing about the right is that when you achieve the title they fall into line. The Position, not the man, is what their fealty is directed towards.

    The competence of the people holding the position is not one of their considerations. The administration sets the agenda and they follow. Period.

    The fact that the decider-in-chief is a fool who’s two chief advisors are Machiavelli and Rasputin reincarnates does not enter into the right’s equation. They are still horribly offended that the center-left bought Nixon down. Hell, they are still horribly offended that the center-left bought Hoover down. Incompetence and criminality are irrelevant. The offence is that the center-left defiled the Position.

    Joe Lieberman is probably just awaiting further instruction from Jerusalem.

  • Anne sez: Joe Lieberman cares about one thing, and one thing only: Joe Lieberman.

    Actually, I’d say he only cares about one thing, and that’s the Zionist worldview. They wanted Iraq destroyed, and they want Iran and Syria destroyed. Joe has wanted all of that forever, no matter the consequences to the USA. Any differences between the radical Zionist position and Joe’s are extremely minor.

  • The news comes the same day we learn that the Bush administration has cleared about 3,500 Iranians for immigration into the United States in the last nine months, quadruple the number of Iraqis the administration has accepted.

    Most Iraqis who would come can’t afford to build “Persian Palaces” in the “Golden Triangle” here in Los Angeles, as these Iranians will, and they wouldn’t reliably vote Republican and take over Beverly Hills, as these Iranians will.

  • Racerx is right about Lieberman. By definition, a “neo-con” is an uber-zionist. The flowering the path of Israel must come first, regardless of the blood and treasure spilled by other countries. The most vocal neo-cons–William Kristol, comes to mind–have no morality and no soul when it comes to shoveling the lives of young Americans (farm boys, working class sons & daughters, and minorities) into their war machine. Neo-con bastards!

  • There is NOTHING honorable about the junior Senator from the State of Connecticut! -Kevo

  • I went to school with Iranians 30 years ago, and they hated us then. We had given them the sadistic Shaw of Iran as our puppet government for many years. They hate everything American, and the stupid idea Iranians like American, it is just asshole bush & co is stupid. Almost as stupid as the idea Iraq would greet us as liberators.
    Bush & Cheney hold constitutional war powers….the power of dictators. They have no intention of war ever ending again. Between the war powers and the patriot act, they can do EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. The only answer is IMPEACHMENT of Bush/Cheney NOW. Otherwise, the next president will have equal powers, and the balance of power will be destroyed forever. Do we want a king or Queen? If not, call your congress people and demand impeachment.
    A good website on this issue is
    http://www.afterdowningstreet.org
    As for Lieberman, he is a disgrace to anybody with one drop of decency. What a whore.

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