Chris Matthews’ creepy, on-air misogyny

From time to time, I’ve taken issue with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews for all kinds of on-air comments, all of them political. But this clip, from Friday’s Hardball, had less to do with politics and more to do with misogyny. (via Melissa McEwan)

This is more than just creepy, it’s possibly even sexual harassment. Erin Burnett is a media professional who anchors a program on CNBC. She was making a serious point about a pressing economic issue. What Chris Matthews did was belittle her, on the air, for being attractive. He didn’t care what she was saying, he didn’t care about reporting information for his viewers; he wanted to play a childish game and call attention to Burnett’s appearance.

It’s 2007, for crying out loud. I don’t know Burnett, but I suspect she, and many women like her, often have to work extra hard to be taken seriously, because there are still too many idiots in positions of media power who care more about women’s appearance than professional skills.

Usually, these offenses happen behind the scenes, in newsrooms and editorial meetings. Matthews put it on national television — on purpose.

The mind reels. Transcript of the clip after the jump.

BURNETT: Well, they were part of the biggest increase in home ownership in this country that we’ve ever seen. I mean, home ownership’s ticked up a few percentage points over the past few years, thanks to low interest rates —

MATTHEWS: Yeah.

BURNETT: — and all those creative types of mortgages. And you could say that’s a good thing, but, you know, Chris, I guess just to throw it out there and, you know, be provocative, but also ask a fair question — you know, maybe not everybody is able to own a home. We like to think of owning a home as a right in this country.

MATTHEWS: Yeah.

BURNETT: It might not be.

MATTHEWS: Could you get a little closer to the camera?

BURNETT: My — what is it? Is it zooming in strangely?

MATTHEWS: Come on in closer. No, come in — come in further — come in closer. Really close.

BURNETT: What are you — what are you doing?

MATTHEWS: [Ha ha!] Just kidding! You look great! Anyway, thanks. Erin, it’s great to — look at that look. You’re great.

BURNETT: I don’t even know. I’m going to have to go look at the tape here. I’m in a strange location.

MATTHEWS: No, you’re beautiful. I’m just kidding. I’m just kidding. You’re a knockout. Anyway, thank you, Erin Burnett.

BURNETT: All right, Chris. See you later.

MATTHEWS: It’s all right getting bad news from you, even, OK? Thanks for coming on Hardball.

Matthews owes Burnett an on-air apology, at a minimum.

Looks like we’re seeing conclusive proof of the deleterious effects of peroxide poisoning.

  • Maybe Matthews is overcompensating for all his “man-crush” gushings over Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney. The guy is certifiably weird in any case and obviously suffers from Attention Deficit Disorder.

  • Chrissy channeling Howard Stern?

    I’m surprised that he didn’t ask her if she was wearing a thong. Or zipped himself up after that interview.

    There is a time and a place to be a damned professional about it.

  • Ah, if only the tables were turned:

    BURNETT: Could you get a little closer to the camera?

    MATTHEWS: My — what is it? Is it zooming in strangely?

    BURNETT: Come on in closer. No, come in — come in further — come in closer. Really close.

    MATTHEWS: What are you — what are you doing?

    BURNETT: [Gasps] Dear god! You look hideous! Well, thanks anyways. Chris, it’s not so great to — just look at that look. You’re hideous.

  • “It’s 2007, for crying out loud. I don’t know Burnett, but I suspect she, and many women like her, often have to work extra hard to be taken seriously.”

    Matthews is a disgusting jackass who has serious problems. He owes this woman an apology, and really should be terminated from MSNBC. And this issue is an extremely important one, laid bare in its ugliness (regardless of how nonthreatening Tweety’s conduct was in this particular instance–but this type of conduct can and often is much worse, consider Bill O’Reilly, for instance). That said, Ms. Burnett’s comments on Friday included the following: “A lot of people like to say, scaremonger about China, right? A lot of politicians and I know you talk about that issue all the time. I think people should be careful what they wish for on China — you know, if China were to revalue its currency, or China is to start making, say, toys that don’t have lead in them, or food that isn’t poisonous, their costs of production are going to go up. And that means prices at Walmart, here in the United States, are going to go up too. So, I would say China is our greatest friend right now.They’re keeping prices low, and they’re keeping prices for mortgages low too.” http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/13/14039/0932

    So sexual harrassment isn’t the only hurdle Ms. Burnett faces in her attempt to be taken seriously.

  • I guess it shows that Tweety Matthews is just a regular Republican misogynist. If he were a Family Values Republican it would have been doing that to a young male reporter.

    Seriously, he should be slapped my his superiors for grossly unprofessional on-air beahvior. I would nominate him for one of Keith Olberman’s “Worst Person in the World” Awards, but Olberman probaly would get into trouble himself for pointing out the unprofessional behavior of an MSNBC colleague.

  • My comment in 6 above was supposed to read: “I guess it shows that Tweety Matthews is just a regular Republican misogynist. If he were a Family Values Republican he would have been doing that to a young male reporter.” I guess it was a Freudian slip showing that I really think of Matthews as an it.

  • Not saying he isn’t creepy or misogynistic – he surely is the former and likely the latter – but lets not rule out this likely scenario, either:

    MATTHEWS: Could you get a little closer to the camera?

    BURNETT: My — what is it? Is it zooming in strangely?

    MATTHEWS: Come on in closer. No, come in — come in further — come in closer. Really close.

    BURNETT: What are you — what are you doing?

    MATTHEWS: [Ha ha!] Just trying to change the subject because I don’t want people to realize I haven’t the first idea what you’re talking about. I mean, you sound smart, and that a problem. For me, this whole credit crisis thing – its all a bunch of numbers. Hell, I majored in journalism because I couldn’t pass the math requirements for anything else. Ha! Just play along and lets mess around because I really can’t be serious about this without slipping up and showing my ignorance. I am not remotely competent to understand a story like this or anything beyond politics because all I have to do there is spout some uninformed opinion and I’m on a level field with all of my peers. . .

  • You were doing great ***bubba*** on getting to the point and keeping the discussion focused on where it should be. Then you had to bring up some reporting she’s done in the past which has nothing to do with what happened to her here.

    What a jerk Mathews shows himself to be, the kind of restaurant “did you see the knockers on that broad?” guest you try to avoid. It would have been nice to see Erin slap that stupid grin off his face. I hope she sues the pants off Mathews for that national insult. I was so embarrassed for her and Mathews was too ignorant to even know how insulting he was being, thinking he was being funny instead of pathetic.

  • Of course the real problem is the proliferation of beautiful women providing content for the news media. Beautiful reporters, comely pundits, experts that are easy on the eyes. It just isn’t fair to a slack-jawed goober like Matthews to have to talk to women while he’s gawking at them. And think of the male viewers at home! I doubt I’ve ever heard a word Robin Meade has said. She sits so closely to the camera.

    I’ve known local anchorwomen who receive bags of unspeakable fan mail from prisoners. Very explicit and super creepy. Matthews sounds like that kind of creep.

  • No one can top Glenn Beck for on-the-air stupidity. But this comes close. Unprofessional as hell.

  • The only thing missing was an obligatory oink from Matthews. Yes, Ms. Burnett should have a “look at the tape” –and take it straight to her lawyer.

  • This isn’t the type of thing you could sue for at all, and the comments suggesting that’s a serious possibility are a little weird. But it is this:

    Maybe Matthews is overcompensating for all his “man-crush” gushings over Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney. The guy is certifiably weird in any case and obviously suffers from Attention Deficit Disorder.

    I definitely would believe Chris (or whoever gives him suggestions) has realized how fucking dumb he made himself look with his attempts to psychologically manipulate the nation into falling in love with his favorite GOP candidates, and Chris is trying to redeem himself in the eyes of all the curmudgeonly old men he’s won over my adopting a tough tone and a fleeting, occasionally revealed, conservative stance.

    Either that or he just wants to make men/women feel like its ok for men to push women around.

  • I’d say it was definitely, borderline pushing-someone-around-because-she’s-a- woman, given the context, but what makes it especially conspicuous is Chris doesn’t always kid around with people like that. Watch for him to kid around a little more to cover his ass.

    I wouldn’t say it’s definitely sexual harassment- like sexual harassment that meets a legal standard for resdressability- if you look at what he said.

  • What surprises me is that people waste time on this talentless, halfwitted piece of something you scrape off your shoe when you step in it.

  • On August 13th, 2007 at 4:55 pm, R.T.Thaddeus said:

    Maybe Matthews is overcompensating for all his “man-crush” gushings over Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney. The guy is certifiably weird in any case and obviously suffers from Attention Deficit Disorder.

    you forgot the codpiece. never forget the codpiece.

    your pal,
    blake

  • It must really be awkward and embarassing for Keith Olberman to have to be around this idiot. It takes a lot of class on Olberman’s part not to tell this A-hole that he is an A-hole.

    I would like to nominate Chris Matthews for a position at Fox News, maybe as foil for Billo.

  • It’s had me baffled for a while how a cartoon character like Matthews could get a job on national or worldwide news broadcasts. Surely his minutes are running short. He always reminds me of the obnoxious superfan at a ballgame that can never shut up with the gushing.

  • Tweety is such a star.

    I gotta give him some undeserved credit, though. When Zell Miller challenged him to a duel, it was the single greatest thing I’ve ever seen on television.

  • Poor Ms. Burnett gets the same type of treatment from GOP Joe on Morning Joe on MSNBC. If any male in any office or shop floor did this, they would be charged with sexual harassment. Or, rather would have been charged. Since this is the Bush Administration, we don’t have to worry about these rules actually being enforced.

  • “Then you had to bring up some reporting she’s done in the past which has nothing to do with what happened to her here.”

    I guess if by “done in the past” means something other than that same day, then you might be correct. But it is my understanding that it was that same day, if not that same show.

    Regardless, not even a poor and untalented journalist deserves this type of treatment.

  • I can’t believe it was *Scarborough* who got canned. I used to always watch his opening panel discussions after Countdown. They were good. Now Dan Abrams is sliming around on a shamelessly awful, tabloidish show. At least Joe left the ratings-pandering crap until later on.

  • To bjobotts @ #9–actually, bubba wasn’t bringing up something from her past reporting–unless 20 seconds is in the past. I was watching that interview and my brain short-circuited when she said that comment about China being our friend and if they stop putting lead in the toys and poison in the food, prices will go up at Walmart. She was dead serious–not a trace of humor. She is either a twit or a Republican, but she still didn’t deserve the icky Matthews treatment. He is disgusting.

  • never mind, I just checked msnbc.com and saw that Joe is now in in the morning. What I said about Dan’s show stands.

  • farmgirl–it is my understanding that Scarborough was ‘promoted’ to the time slot that was previously occupied by Imus. And I am no fan of Dan Abrahm’s show either. One would think that with the example being set by Olbermann these folks could come up with something that, although not a copycat of Countdown, would capture the dynamic or message of it.

  • I watched the exchange live and I was reminded of something I read in this month’s Psychology Today–

    “Sexual harassment cases of the hostile-environment variety result from sex differences in what men and women perceive as “overly sexual” or “hostile” behavior. Many women legitimately complain that they have been subjected to abusive, intimidating, and degrading treatment by their male coworkers. Browne points out that long before women entered the labor force, men subjected each other to such abusive, intimidating, and degrading treatment.

    Abuse, intimidation, and degradation are all part of men’s repertoire of tactics employed in competitive situations. In other words, men are not treating women differently from men—the definition of discrimination, under which sexual harassment legally falls—but the opposite: Men harass women precisely because they are not discriminating between men and women.”
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-20070622-000002.xml

    I think Matthews was unkind to Burnett (I’m sure afterwards a suit told him to lay off) but I don’t think it was sexual harassment, he was just picking on a lower level employee who didn’t have the job status to pick on him back. Sort of like how Bush comes up with demeaning nicknames for all of his aides. I got the sense he did it make Burnett look silly by moving to close to the camera and the compliments on her looks was his way of saying, just kidding. Which reminds me, he once introduced Andrea Mitchell with, “she’s been covering politics since I was a kid… just kidding”. Since Mitchell isn’t of lower status than Matthews (she could certainly call him a jerk on air without fear of job security), that one was actually kind of funny.

    So my vote is, jerk but not a pig. :o)

  • As someone who just sat through a “Harassment Free Workplace” training session (from the same parent company as Chris Matthews). I would have to say that Matthews has violated Federal Harassment and Discrimination laws as well as company policy.

  • Just unbelievable. The words alone of Chris Matthews to Ms. Burnett are appalling regarding this subject and his abuse of the airways and his authority. I thought Mathews’ AADD style of hosting and constantly interrupting his guests immediately after he asks them a question to voice his insipid perspective that must come from some alternative universe rational, was bad. But what he did to and with Ms. Burnett is outrageous. However, MSNBC not making him apologuize to Burnett and to the viewing audience is even worse. It is MSNBC’s acceptance and endorsement of bad, illegal behavior by Matthews. “Just kidding” my ass. This was a game Matthews was playing with himself in his mind, “ooooh baby, baby.” He not only did not take Burnett as a serious, credible colleague journalist, he totally detached from the topic, moving onto to where he wanted to go in the conversation. MSNBC should strive for hosts who actually take their job seriously, care about the content, and treat their guests with respect, rather than failing to reprimand Matthews promptly after he slipped into his personal sexual fantasy with Burnett playing mind games with her on air. Who is Matthews related to at MSNBC to get away with this? Burnett chose to be dignified in her response to Matthews, when I know what she really would have liked to say was, “Hey Pinhead. Try to stay on track here in this interview and when you get off work, make a call and pay for phone sex on your own time.” Until then, we are here to discuss and important topic that could be of value to our viewers.” MSNBC, here is the definition of Sexual Harassment provided by the FCC. You know, the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission who either allows or disallows you, MSNBC, to function on the airways depending on your content.

  • (Continued) from Emil T.

    Understanding Workplace Harassment

    Workplace Harassment is a Form of Discrimination

    Unlawful harassment is a form of discrimination that violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and other federal authority.

    Unwelcome verbal or physical conduct based on race, color, religion, sex (whether or not of a sexual nature and including same-gender harassment and gender identity harassment), national origin, age (40 and over), disability (mental or physical), sexual orientation, or retaliation (sometimes collectively referred to as “legally protected characteristics”) constitutes harassment when:

    The conduct is sufficiently severe or pervasive to create a hostile work environment; or

    A supervisor’s harassing conduct results in a tangible change in an employee’s employment status or benefits (for example, demotion, termination, failure to promote, etc.).

    Hostile work environment harassment occurs when unwelcome comments or conduct based on sex, race or other legally protected characteristics unreasonably interferes with an employee’s work performance or creates an intimidating, hostile or offensive work environment. Anyone in the workplace might commit this type of harassment – a management official, co-worker, or non-employee, such as a contractor, vendor or guest. The victim can be anyone affected by the conduct, not just the individual at whom the offensive conduct is directed.

    Examples of actions that may create sexual hostile environment harassment include:

    Leering, i.e., staring in a sexually suggestive manner

    Making offensive remarks about looks, clothing, body parts

    Touching in a way that may make an employee feel uncomfortable, such as patting, pinching or intentional brushing against another’s body

    Telling sexual or lewd jokes, hanging sexual posters, making sexual gestures, etc.

    Sending, forwarding or soliciting sexually suggestive letters, notes, emails, or images

    Other actions which may result in hostile environment harassment, but are non-sexual in nature, include:

    Use of racially derogatory words, phrases, epithets

    Demonstrations of a racial or ethnic nature such as a use of gestures, pictures or drawings which would offend a particular racial or ethnic group

    Comments about an individual’s skin color or other racial/ethnic characteristics

    Making disparaging remarks about an individual’s gender that are not sexual in nature

    Negative comments about an employee’s religious beliefs (or lack of religious beliefs)

    Expressing negative stereotypes regarding an employee’s birthplace or ancestry

    Negative comments regarding an employee’s age when referring to employees 40 and over

    Derogatory or intimidating references to an employee’s mental or physical impairment

    Harassment that results in a tangible employment action occurs when a management official’s harassing conduct results in some significant change in an employee’s employment status (e.g., hiring, firing, promotion, failure to promote, demotion, formal discipline, such as suspension, undesirable reassignment, or a significant change in benefits, a compensation decision, or a work assignment). Only individuals with supervisory or managerial responsibility can commit this type of harassment.

    A claim of harassment generally requires several elements, including:

    The complaining party must be a member of a statutorily protected class;

    S/he was subjected to unwelcome verbal or physical conduct related to his or her membership in that protected class;

    The unwelcome conduct complained of was based on his or her membership in that protected class;

    The unwelcome conduct affected a term or condition of employment and/or had the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with his or her work performance and/or creating an intimidating, hostile or offensive work environment.

    What is Not Harassment?

    The anti-discrimination statutes are not a general civility code. Thus, federal law does not prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not extremely serious. Rather, the conduct must be so objectively offensive as to alter the conditions of the individual’s employment. The conditions of employment are altered only if the harassment culminates in a tangible employment action or is sufficiently severe or pervasive to create a hostile work environment.

    Report any incident of harassment immediately to your supervisor, any member of management and/or to the Director of the Office of Workplace Diversity.

    Note:

    Any employee wishing to initiate an EEO complaint arising out of the alleged incident of harassment must contact an FCC EEO Counselor or other EEO official within 45 calendar days of the date of the incident. For information on how to contact an EEO Counselor, visit http://www.fcc.gov/owd/counselors.html. The employee should not wait until the agency’s internal harassment inquiry is completed to contact a counselor if waiting will allow the 45-day time limit to expire.

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