Proof that Giuliani wasn’t ‘one of them’

Last week, Rudy Giuliani made one of the more startling mistakes of the presidential campaign to date. Talking to reporters, on camera, Giuliani said he was at Ground Zero “as often, if not more” than the rescue, recovery, and cleanup workers who spent a year sifting through human remains and rubble. He added, “So in that sense, I’m one of them.”

Insulted workers were deeply offended, causing Giuliani to backpedal, but the damage was already done. At the time, Atrios noted that “Giuliani is making an empirical claim here which could be verified with a little reporting.”

Good idea. To its credit, the NYT follows up today with the truth.

A complete record of Mr. Giuliani’s exposure to the site is not available for the chaotic six days after the attack, when he was a frequent visitor. But an exhaustively detailed account from his mayoral archive, revised after the events to account for last-minute changes on scheduled stops, does exist for the period of Sept. 17 to Dec. 16, 2001. It shows he was there for a total of 29 hours in those three months, often for short periods or to visit locations adjacent to the rubble. In that same period, many rescue and recovery workers put in daily 12-hour shifts. […]

The 29 hours Mr. Giuliani spent at ground zero involved 41 appearances, mostly to give tours to other officials and foreign dignitaries. Many entries include meetings away from the site before the tour. For instance, the schedule included 30 minutes on Nov. 15, 2001, for President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, but Mr. Putin’s tour of ground zero was widely reported to have lasted 13 minutes.

Asked to reconcile Giuliani’s transparent lies with reality, the Giuliani campaign issued a bland, boilerplate statement about “steadfast and determined leadership.” In other words, the former mayor’s team couldn’t explain or justify Giuliani’s mendacity, so they hope to avoid the subject. Indeed, the statement didn’t even try to deny that their candidate has been caught lying about his principal presidential qualification.

So, here’s the reality: Giuliani spent about 10 hours a month bringing celebrities and dignitaries to Ground Zero, while rescue workers and cleanup crews put in about 400 hours at the site. In Giuliani’s self-aggrandizing mind, the two are practically identical.

What’s more, Greg Sargent noted today that Giuliani has been lying about this for quite a while.

[W]e thought it would be worthwhile to highlight these Rudy quotes from September of 2006:

“I spent as much time here as anyone… I was here five, six times a day for four months. I kind of thought of it as living here.”

Honestly, this is the kind of gaffe that should effectively end Giuliani’s presidential ambitions. He’s running on an all-9/11, all-the-time platform, and he’s been caught lying about it.

Just think, if only this story dealt with an expensive haircut, it might even be big news to the ridiculous political press.

Never pad your resume. It will come back to haunt you, sometimes years later.

RooDee was a highly unpopular mayor who has a soap opera instead of a family life. He surrounds himself with crooked characters (Bernard Kerick comes to mind) and flip-flops in the most blatant way imaginable on every issue that his party seems to care about. His foreign policy is “batshit insane.” But he made a few good speeches after 9/11, so a lot of Republicans think he would make a great president.

RooDee isn’t the only one who is batshit insane.

  • To paraphrase Winston Churchill, every Republican candidate for 2008 is the worst, except for all the others. I’m glad that Mitt Romney’s five boys are driving around the country to save us from this madman. I don’t think they would be likely to change our fortunes in Iraq, but if they can save us from a President Giuliani, then they’ve certainly served their country.

    (note: not that I’m *excusing* the colossal idiocy of the Romney clan, but…)

  • I’d like a little insight as to how Willard and Guiliani even got elected in “liberal” Massachusetts and “liberal” New York City……

  • What you don’t understand is that tRudy’s time is different from that of average people. Each minute of his life is so overwhelmingly important that of course it counts for more. His 29 hours really equates to about 2,900 hours, as compared to the paltry time spent by those humble others who were there doing only mundane, non-kingly things such as searching for human remains.

  • Hey, hey guys. You’re just being cruel to Roodee. It’s tough leading celebs and others around the remains of the WTC. Sometimes, he breaks into a little sweat.

    /snark

  • And if you listen closely, the SCLM will start referring to Rudy as a serial liar…

    Wait for it…

    Really, any minute now…

  • For as huge a peckerhead as Goerge W Bush is and for as bad a leader as he has been for this nation, he does, at times, at least demonstrate a bit of twisted humility, usually around his lack of intelligence or his poor command of English.

    Rudy is all the bad parts of George W Bush combined with a pathologically overbearing ego. I am beginning to see he could be much worse than Bush and leave us pining for the good old days of W if he ever got elected.

  • Flo-

    I don’t know about Rudi, but Willard got the GOP to oust the Acting Govenor, Jane Swift, because he was , you know, a male who had more money and better teeth AND hair than Jane. (Jane was Acting Governor as Paul Celluci had followed a long standing GOP tradition in Mass. of bailing out as soon as a better “position” comes along -Ambassador to Canada).

    He then beat a woman in the general election by stating he was pro-choice and liberal.

    Now he tells the GOP’ers that it was all a lie, to get elected.

  • Lets see. 29 hours, divided over 91 day is slightly over 20 minutes a day. Not so good.

    Lets try this: 29 hours over 41 visits is slightly over 42 minutes per visit. Better.

    At my job it takes longer to get lunch.

    Those emergency responders in NYC must be very very lazy if ‘America’s mayor’ is to be believed.

  • Giuliani just got Gored. Luckily for him, it was an actual lie, and therefore won’t count against him.

    In Rudy’s defense, the man is so tedious that spending one hour with him feels like a day — even to himself. That explains his 1:24 fudge-factor.

  • I work for the Federal Government and I am, as part of my job, something called ‘fire militia.’ I get called out to forest fires (and occasionally hurricanes and other disasters). I found myself at NYC after 9/11 doing support work for the rescue crews. I was at ground zero for about 7 hours during the two weeks I was in Manhattan. I was not at ground zero enough to qualify for health monitoring. But I was there about a half-hour per day, which means I was there more than Mr. Giuliani, which means . . . what? Nothing. I, like everyone else caught up in that, did what I had to do, I did my job. To hear nonsense like this from a frikkn’ Presidential Candidate is just downright scary.

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