The Motor City Madman

As a rule, writing about Ted Nugent is a bit like writing about Ann Coulter — they’re both ridiculous clowns who say stupid things to get attention. My better instincts tell me to ignore them.

But once in a while, there’s a reason to highlight their stupidity. Take Ted Nugent’s latest outburst, for example.

“I was in Chicago last week, I said, ‘Hey Obama, you might want to suck on one of these, you punk!’ Obama, he’s a piece of sh*t and I told him to suck on my machine gun! Let’s hear it for them. I was in New York and I said, ‘Hey Hillary, you might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.’ And since I’m in California, how about Barbara Boxer? She might want to suck on my machine gun! Hey, Dianne Feinstein, ride one of these, you worthless whore!”

First, let’s keep the context in mind. Nugent was something of a star in the ’70s, but more recently, he’s become a proud Republican activist who, oddly enough, routinely appears on Fox News, writes for the Wall Street Journal editorial page, and has even been recruited to run for public office under the GOP flag. (Now would, of course, be the ideal time for Bill O’Reilly to remind us that Daily Kos is a “hate site” because a few anonymous commenters wrote some intemperate remarks.)

Second, Nugent’s remarks actually made the rounds fairly quickly. I naively expected conservatives to respond by a) ignoring Nugent’s comments; or b) gingerly distancing themselves from the nut. I didn’t expect Sean Hannity to defend Nugent and excuse the borderline-threatening remarks, but that’s exactly what he did on Friday night. (via Digby)

Oh my.

Realistically, I think it’s fair to say that if a Democratic activist encouraged four Republican senators to suck on machine-gun barrels, while calling the lawmakers a “piece of sh*t,” a “worthless bitch,” and a “worthless whore,” we probably wouldn’t be hearing from that activist again for a while. For that matter, no one with any kind of audience would defend the comments, and the activist would soon be persona non grata in progressive circles.

But this is a reminder that in conservative circles, there is no line to be crossed. There are no limits, and there are no consequences.

Post Script: By the way, this was debunked quite a while ago, but Hannity’s argument that Obama’s comments about the war in Afghanistan are somehow comparable to Nugent’s lunacy is truly insane. Hannity is just too dumb for his own good.

On the August 19 edition of Fox News’ Hannity’s America, host Sean Hannity asserted that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) was “bashing America” and “accus[ing] U.S. soldiers of killing innocent Afghani civilians” during an August 13 campaign appearance in Nashua, New Hampshire. In fact, as the video, which Hannity aired, makes clear, Obama criticized the shortage of troops in Afghanistan, saying: “We’ve got to get the job done there [in Afghanistan] and that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there.”

As Media Matters for America noted in response to Hannity’s earlier mischaracterizations of Obama’s comments, U.S. air strikes in Afghanistan — and accounts of resulting civilian casualties — have been widely reported in the media and have reportedly provoked criticism from Afghan President Hamid Karzai and a British commander stationed there. Additionally, as the Associated Press reported in a “Fact Check” responding to conservative attacks on Obama, “Western forces have been killing civilians at a faster rate than the insurgents.” Further, in a July 7 article on NATO and U.S. air strikes reported to have killed more than 100 Afghan civilians, Reuters cited the assessment of military analysts that “a shortage of ground troops means commanders often turn to air power.”

The mind reels.

So, a NeoCon poster child has diarrhea of the mouth. Sounds like a regular terrorist threatening United States Senators. Interesting.

What else that is interesting is Richard Roeper’s article in the Chicago Sun Times today: Facing a draft, Nugent bravely wet his pants

Chickenhawks of a feather flock together…

  • Bu-but, some of John Edward’s former aides wrote some mean things about Catholics on their own personal blogs!

    I personally hope to see more of this in the months to come. The GOP will either tell their noisier members to StFu and start acting like adults, or continue to embrace this shit and take another step towards political irrelevance.

  • Hannity is dumb like a Fox.

    I’ve written and read with approval stuff in comments much like Nugent’s only about Republican fascists so it’s hard to get too outraged. Filled with disgust for Nugent, yes. Outraged, no.

    The most educational thing that could happen to Nugent and Hannity would be for a REAL badass to get them at gunpoint. Then they would know that their own faux pretensions are despicable.

    What kind of a man acts like Nugent? No man at all.

  • 1. On August 27th, 2007 at 4:00 pm, JKap said:
    So, a NeoCon poster child has diarrhea of the mouth. Sounds like a regular terrorist threatening United States Senators. Interesting.

    You’re right, it does. But he was just trying to stir up discussion.

  • Strange. I was just reading on wonkette that the Secret Service is trying to arrest a college kid who mooned Karl Rove, but somehow blithely ignores the Nug’s comments.

    The Nug is rather gungho for a guy who didn’t go to Vietnam and apparently made an active effort not to go.

  • Here’s my bit of naivete for the day: Shouldn’t the Secret Service be investigating threats against two people they are sworn to protect?

  • 6. On August 27th, 2007 at 4:18 pm, DrGail said:
    Here’s my bit of naivete for the day: Shouldn’t the Secret Service be investigating threats against two people they are sworn to protect?

    I agree. Especially a man who had a machine gun in his hands when he made the threats.

  • Remember all the outrage the Dixie Chicks sparked a few years ago when they apologized for George W. Bush? Remember the shit storms that Janeane Garafolo and every other liberal star who spoke out against Bush had to endure? Remember Charlie Daniels’ rant about how rockers and movie stars had no place in political discourse [just before Ahnold was elected governor]? Well, where’s the outrage now?

    And for the record, Ted Nugent is a guitar hack! He knows about eight licks.

  • Fat, over-the-hill white supremacist has-been Nugent. Big hero with his canned hunts, shooting zoo animals with his big bad bow and arrow. Goddamned fuckwit, I long to hear the news he’s been found with a 30-30 hole between the eyes.

  • I saw Teddy N. at a Black Sabbath concert in, I think, 1978. He was the warm-up act. Well, one song into his act (you know, his only hit, Stranglehold), and his amps shorted out. Well, there he was, with no sound, in front of a whole lot of agitated B.S. fans. What did he do? Scream obscenities at the crowd? No! He retreated behind stage before anything that began to be tossed wouldn’t hit him. What a brave soul! -Kevo

  • When the Draft Board reared its fearsome head,
    Ted Nugent crapped his pants and bed,
    Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Teddy…

    By his own admission, Nugent stopped all forms of personal hygiene for a month and showed up for his draft board physical in pants caked with his own urine and feces, winning a deferment.

    Someone needs to tell him we no longer have a draft so he can start bathing again.

    I just hope someone starts asking if Ted’s desire to see Obama suck on his machine gun is just a tad Freudian. Ted might piss his pants again.

  • O.K, SO A ROCK STAR SAID SOMETHING OBSCENE!!??! (SAT.NITE LIVE REF.) ..OH REALLY(!) ? HEY NEWS FLASH PEOPLE: IT’S CALLED ENTERTAINMENT! BASICALLY IT’S THE SAME THING YOUR DEMOCRATIC “CANDIDATES” ARE DOING AS THEY TRAVEL THE COUNTRY WASTING THE MONEY OF SPEC.INTERESTS GROUPS AND ANY OTHER IDIOT THAT DONATED MONEY TO THEM.YEA, SE HOW MANY TIMES THESE CANDIDATES VOTE THIS YEAR ( GOD FORBID THEY SHOULD ACTUALLY DO WHAT THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO) — I’M NOT SUPRISED TO SEE THAT ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS ARE FROM THE LEFT UNDER THIS COMMENTARY.FOR ONE , YEA I VOTED REPUBLICAN ON THE LAST ELECTION, AND AS A TRUE CONSERVATIVE WHO SUPPORTS THE CONSTITUTION ABOVE ANY PARTY’S AGENDA,THE REPUBLICANS ARE STARTING TO LOOK MORE AND MORE LIKE THE DEMS DAY BY DAY.BY THE WAY WHAT WAS SO “THREATENING” ABOUT TED NUGENT’S REMARKS? IT’S CALLED A JOKE!! IN JEST!! DO YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT ?-THINK FOR A MOMENT: IF YOU CONSIDER THAT A “THREAT” YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR FUCKING HEAD CHECKED! YOU KNOW IT MAY ACTUALLY SERVE THIS COUNTRY WELL TO ELECT SOMEONE FROM THE CURRENT LINEUP HUMAN WASTE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT (ON THE DEMS SIDE) B/C THE REST OF US WHO ARE SICK OF BOTH PARTIES MAINSTEAM POSTURING ARE ONLY GONNA VOTE IN THE MOST CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES AVAILABLE FOR CONGRESS, THEN WHERE IS YOUR “ASS” OF A PRESIDENT GOING TO STAND? EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT,PROBABLY NOT, SINCE MOST OF THINK THAT THE POSITION OF PRESIDENCY = MONARCHY.IT’S CONGRESS WHO MAKE THE LAWS! YOU FUCKING JACKASSES!!!

  • But this is a reminder that in conservative circles, there is no line to be crossed. There are no limits, and there are no consequences.– CB

    Well said. Among the critical issues of our time, exposing those attributes of modern conservatism may be the most important, for so long as conservatives are allowed to act as they do, rational persons are fighting an uphill battle. Not to mention that its behavior that most Americans would abhor — if only they knew.

  • dear mr. constitutionalist, when chastising anyone, the first rule is to stay away from the capital case lettering your post embodies. Cap case letters are like yelling, and anyone knows the louder you yell, the less your point comes across. Please try to do a better job next time. All I get from your capital case rant is that your are ignorant. Is that the point you were trying to make? -Kevo

  • Hey, Mr. Constitutionalist, do you have any kids? Well, if so, I guess you wouldn’t mind if I said they should suck on machine guns or straddle them and ride off into the sunset — as long as it was a joke, right?

  • I’ll keep saying it, the RepubilKKKan Christian Right, is the new face of the K.K.K. and it’s looking pretty ugly!

  • All right, maybe Mr Nugent’s comments were bad…

    But which is worse: Nugent’s comments, or this completely irrelevant different thing that someone else did?

    Aha. You see my point.

  • Well if Republicans feel they can mock various stars of the Democratic persuasion, I don’t see the problem with mocking “stars” (and I use the term loosely here) of the Republican persuasion. Ted has never had a problem with being in your face and looking stupid. Looks like that is getting worth as he gets older and even less relevant.

  • I think a real man like Sean Penn needs to kick his ass, and then debate him. After all, we all know that Bush is a “venomous vermin” now don’t we?

  • Constitutionalist:

    Said in jest??? With true patriotic Americans still coming home in flag draped coffins, that makes it any better????????????????? I don’t even think that a dirtbag would show that kind of disrespect for our miulitary. Ya know, the real heros that gives Turd Nugget the right to wave his guns around. So, that means that this disrespectful coward is nothing but a pile of feces. Did I say that in jest? Or, did I really mean that statement? I’ll take the latter!!!!

  • Picking up guns and threatening members of Congress? It’s a step away from terrorism. They should call him “Osam Bin Nugent.” Off to Gitmo…

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