Senate passes Kyl-Lieberman measure on Iran

Yesterday, the Senate was poised to vote on a non-binding resolution, sponsored by Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), to get the chamber on record supporting some aggressive language towards Iran. The measure was, as Josh Marshall described it, a building block towards an eventual military confrontation with Tehran, following the same pattern established by neocons on Iraq (as per the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act).

In the 11th hour, the Lieberman-Kyl measure was pulled, so that proponents could give the language a little touch-up. It came back today, and passed fairly easily.

The Kyl-Lieberman Iran amendment — which ratchets up the confrontation with Iran by calling for the designation of its armed forces a terrorist organization responsible for killing U.S. troops — just passed overwhelmingly, 76-22.

Of the Dem Presidential candidates, Hillary voted for the measure, Joe Biden and Chris Dodd opposed it, and Barack Obama missed the vote. On the GOP side, John McCain missed the vote.

To be sure, the revised version is preferable to the original. Two offending paragraphs, in particular, were omitted entirely, including the notion that “it should be the policy of the United States to combat, contain, and roll back the violent activities and destabilizing influence inside Iraq of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, its foreign facilitators such as Lebanese Hezbollah, and its indigenous Iraqi proxies.”

Indeed, the original resolution also included language that the Senate would “support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments,” as part of our drive to “combat” Iran’s “destabilizing influence.”

As foreign-affairs resolutions go, this was pretty strong language, and would set a dangerous precedent. As Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) said, “At best, it’s a deliberate attempt to divert attention from a failed diplomatic policy. At worst, it could be read as a backdoor method of gaining congressional validation for military action, without one hearing and without serious debate.” He added that Lieberman-Kyl “is Dick Cheney’s fondest pipe dream.”

So, the good news is, the most offensive language is gone. The bad news is, the resolution is still a bad idea, and it’s disappointing to see it pass so easily.

Webb opposed the revised version, too, noting that it designates the Iranian guard a terrorist organization. The measure specifically says:

“the United States should designate Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps as a foreign terrorist organization…and place the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps on the list of Specially Designated Global Terrorists.”

If the Senate is on board with this, and it clearly is, it’s hardly a stretch to think Bush could use this as cover to confront Iranian forces militarily under the guise of counter-terrorism.

Perhaps hoping to make the bill slightly more palatable to skeptics, the revised version also included an entirely new paragraph:

“Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stated on September 16, 2007 that “I think that the administration believes at this point that continuing to try and deal with the Iranian threat, the Iranian challenge, through diplomatic and economic means is by the preferable approach. That the one we are using. We always say all options are on the table, but clearly, the diplomatic and economic approach is the one that we are pursuing.”

Yeah, and they said the same thing about Iraq.

Sen. Dodd, who also opposed the measure, responded:

I cannot support the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on Iran. To do so could give this President a green light to act recklessly and endanger US national security. We learned in the run up to the Iraq war that seemingly nonbinding language passed by this Senate can have profound consequences. We need the president to use robust diplomacy to address concerns with Iran, not the language in this amendment that the president can point to if he decides to draw this country into another disastrous war of choice. […]

We shouldn’t repeat our mistakes and enable this President again.

Here’s the roll call. Among the votes to note, Clinton sided with the majority, which came as a bit of a surprise, and two conservative Republicans — Sens. Lugar (Ind.) and Hagel (Neb.) — voted against it.

“So, the good news is, the MOST offensive language is gone.” [emphasis mine]

Oh, good. We bomb, but no nukes…

Glad to see compromise is back in DC.

I freakin’ LOVE the bomb! YEEEEEEEHAAAAAW!!!!!!

  • Welcome to the New World Order* brought to you by the NeoCon Minority.

    *a Project for the New American Century

  • Yeah. Iran’s causing instability in the middle east. We can invade, bomb, kill, depose, install, threaten, etc. and that’s fine. But Iran, just for sitting where it does, is the one causing instability. Are this blind to our own hypocrisy?

  • Hillary Clinton says she regrets that GWB screwed up the authority she gave him with respect to the AUMF against IRAQ. How could she possibly have known he would? So what will be her excuse this time? Fool me once…

  • Hillary once again makes me question why she isn’t a Republican.

    Do these folks not learn? If you give Bush even the mildest encouragement, he thinks he has a mandate. Haven’t the senators figured that out yet? Will this be one of those votes they have to repudiate in a year?????

    How stupid are these people?

  • Another sensible amendment by serious people who want to blow the fuck out of Iran.

    So nice to see such decorum return to the halls of Congress. The third war in the trilogy will be a bipartisan effort!

  • It is getting tiresome and monotonous. The Dems cave, not because they fear terrorism, but because they fear being labeled as soft on terror.

    How prophetic was Roosevelt, about fear? It’s destroying us. Not terrorism itself, which has limited capacity to inflict damage on us. But the use of fear as a political tool from Republicans, and the fear of being called soft from the Democrats.

  • Slowly but inexorably, the catastrophe in Iraq (which is itself a sufficiently huge cluster-fuck to absorb the work of a generation to put right, if ever) is moving into the rearview mirror, and Iran is edging into the headlights. Just like your nightmares, where something horrible is bearing down on you – you feel its hot breath on the back of your neck, but you’re running in molasses – everybody sees this building, but nobody seems to have the power or the will to stop it. Because the war is being fought by a volunteer military and a paid mercenary army, the average citizen can allow it to play out at arm’s length, and feels no imperative to shut the whole thing down. History will record that the citizens of the nation looked on in goggle-eyed wonder as a self-centred little alcoholic Texas yahoo climbed into the drivers seat, cocked his elbow out the window and drove the United States to destruction.

  • Yeah my democratic senator McCaskill D-MO finally voted against the republicans and recognized an AUMF on Iran no matter how Jerusalem Joe tried to disguise it. Good on her.

    Disappointing was Clinton with another one of her “If I knew then what I know now etc.” to practice for future use. Keep in mind that we are condemning Iran for doing what we have done. Lieberman is so hot to attack Iran that he is slowly getting up backdoor support on a monthly basis. It’s like saying Iraq should attack Americans because Blackwater has sold terrorists arms on the blackmarket. Blackwater has also killed innocent Iraqis. Here Cheney is running covert operations like kidnapping and blowing up bridges and arming insurgents inside Iran while we condemn Iran as a nation because some Iranians “might” be supplying weapons… to Sunnis? The hypocrisy is so overwhelming that it should be enough for Lieberman and Kyl to keep their mouths shut. Such a resolution was and is totally unnecessary and should never have even been proposed. Jerusalem Joe has got to go. His obsessions are detrimental to resolving ME issues. What a waste of time and taxpayer money

  • I think that it’s cowardice that Obama did not vote on this resolution as well as the Anti-First Amendment resolution last week. If you look at Dick Durbin’s votes on the two aforementioned amendments, I’d say that it’s easy to extrapolate what Obama’s vote would have been (since Durbin is the senior Senator from Illinois). I call that culpable deniability. Some leadership I say.

    Go ahead, make excuses for him; and hey, nice vote Hillary! You exemplify what the Democratic Party is all about today. A “tremendous candidate,” wouldn’t you say, CB?

  • We always say all options are on the table, but clearly, the diplomatic and economic approach is the one that we are pursuing.”

    Yeah, and they said the same thing about Iraq.

    *********************************

    Bush is so stubborn because his opposition is so thick headed. This was the whole game. Kerry’s authorization, remember, was a “vote for peace” to give Bush leveradge to force Hussein to let inspectors in. It didn’t stop them from painting him as a vascillating supporter who voted for invasion, though.

    This is EXACTLY how they did it last time. They got Democrats on record for a non-authorization authorization “for peace” that Bush uses to justify his covert operations to create an “incident”. Last time, the “incident” was requiring Hussein to turn over a complete accounting of all his WMDs, and Hussein did: the documents said he had none. So the violation of UN resolutions was his refusal to declare weapons he didn’t have. Here, as in campaigns, what Bush can’t find on his opponent, he’ll manufacture. Honestly, they don’t even look that hard, they just make stuff up to save on oppo research.

    It’s not officially a resolution now, but it will be when we invade — and they’re all on record.

    Hillary will not be the frontrunner if Bush attacks Iran.

  • I tell ya, I just can’t figure out these unpredictable Dems.

    Clinton, Schumer, Levin, Whitehouse (and others) had been routinely voting the correct way on these Middle East war issues; on this they did not.

    Cantwell, Klobuchar and McCaskill had been voting wrong and suddenly vote correctly (good for them!)

    Obama skips yet another key vote on these issues.

    I’m confused.

  • I think that it’s cowardice that Obama did not vote on this resolution as well as the Anti-First Amendment resolution last week. -JKap

    I supported Obama skipping the vote last week because he had a coherent and valid reason for doing so.

    There is no reason that I feel would be justified in skpping this vote. Hillary and Obama should both be ashamed today. Pathetic.

  • It is time for the American people to join together to stop this blind, mad drive for world war. Hillary’s yes vote tells me she has no intention of stopping the Iraq war. A couple of weeks ago, I heard her say we need to prepare for “the next war.” Like bush, she is incapable of saying she is wrong about anything, including the first Iraq war vote. She calls it “unfortunate.”

    No, we are the unfortunate ones if we fail to elect either John Edwards, Gov. Richardson or Dennis Kucinich. They are the only ones with any good intentions for the American people. Unfortunately, the media has a virtual blackout on all these people, declaring Hillary the “frontrunner.” Not by any polls I participated in.

    Hark is profoundly correct in his reference to fear mongering. Fear and misinformation is destroying our nation. We are like a nation of sheep heading for a cliff at full speed.

    Our country is going into the tank, we are out of time. We can’t afford to wait for the next election…we need to SCREAM NOW!

  • This is a horrible result. I am a Connecticut resident. I wrote Chris Dodd an e-mail strongly against Kyl-Lieberman. Whether my e-mail made any difference or not, he voted the right way. My other senator is Lieberman … I figured it would be a waste of time to write him an e-mail asking him to vote against his own bill.
    BTW I voted for Lamopnt twice: primary and general election.
    What, exactly, do the Democratic Senators who voted in favor of this resolution think its purpose is? Exactly what do they expect will ensure from this legislative action?

  • Who’s in the majority again??? By these latest House and Senate votes, it sure doesn’t look like the Dems have any control!

  • Dear Senator Cardin/Mikulski:
    Are you fucking high?

    Hmmm. Perhaps that is a little strong but I’ll figure out some way to express my disgust.

  • Mr Rogers, from beyond the grave:

    “Can you spell Democrat, boys and girls?

    Q. U. I. S. L. I. N. G.

    Good. I knew you could.”

    So—what’s next? Should I trade my shoes for a nice pair of jackboots, and learn the lyrics to some suitable musical rendition—maybe “Panzerlied” or the Hoerst Wessel?

    Welkommen Reichen Amerika!!!

  • The Israel lobby succeeded again today in “cowing” several Democratic senators–including, regrettably, Hillary Clinton. Obama’s non-vote isn’t any better. Hillary doesn’t have to be a fire-breathing liberal–but, she’s got to lose her obsession with assuaging the middle. Hopefully, Hillary will put her foot down if Lieberman and the Republicans continue this non-binding resolution (and war-enabling) bullshit. It will be a test of her character to do so.

  • I’m disappointed, as a constituent of hers, in Hillary’s affirmative vote on the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment. By so so doing, she can no longer validly state “If I knew then what I know now” when our warmongering president takes aggressive==read “preemptive war”–action against Iran or any other of our adversaries.

    Truly honest diplomatic initiatives by our federal government with any of our adversaries would diffuse–rather than inflame–world tensions by hopefully achieving “win-win” solutions all sides can be proud of. Preemptive war onn the other hand, as we have seen by our warmongering president’s actions in Iraq, would only be counterproductive in achieving real security–nationally and, indeed, internationally–against the terroristic actions of radical individuals, groups, or nations.

  • Please forgive the typos in my #20 post above. (I was afraid of a transmission error message as I received in my previous two attempts at posting my #20 comment above.)

  • Congress has now prevented Webb’s efforts to declare Bush can not attack Iran, and passed another comprimise towards making an attack inevitable.

    By my calculation, that makes this a bipartisan invasion.

  • For a presidential candidate, Sen. Dodd sure is on the right side of issues an awful lot. Given what other candidates are doing on these votes, it’s getting very difficult to not support the guy. Maybe it’s time to take Dodd seriously and some of the other candiates less so.

  • Voice of America and Fiasco at Persian Service.
    Millions of dollars are spent in Persian Service of Voice of America but the end result is nothing but scandalous way of cockamamie management and programming.
    It is hard to believe but the Persian Service which supposed to be an organization to convey the policy of the U.S. has become a free platform for hard-line terrorist group of communists who attack the United Sates!
    I have the documents in writings to prove that these were done with the full knowledge of the management.
    I used to work there and as I said before, I have all the documents in writings.
    The manager is a woman called Sheila Gandji who can not read and write Persian. Therefore, in order to hide this shortcoming from the higher management, she has hired an eighty something man called Kambiz Mahmoudi who has a lengthy background as crook and in charlatanism.
    You expect a doctor to be in charge of a medical clinic. You expect an engineer to be in charge of an engineering department. You expect a plumber to fix your plumbing.
    So why do you expect a person who has no education in Iran and doesn’t know the language of that country should be in charge of publicity, literature or politic for such position?
    Sheila Gandji falsely pretended and presented herself as educated with background in journalism. These are absolute fabrications. Nobody in Iranian communities inside of the country or outside has any knowledge about her being a journalist, then and now.
    Her partner, Kambiz Mahmoudi is a hateful and despicable person whose activities as crook are widely known through out Iran. Can’t the U.S. government appoint somebody without such shameful background and baggage?
    Don’t think that this is a personal vendetta.
    Let me quote you a view from another media:
    “The Iran Steering group concluded that much of the anti-American perspective that is broadcast is the result of decisions made by station managers in Washington D.C. and Prague. Sheila Gandji, the manager of Persian service has faced sharp criticism, particularly for her decision to stop VOA shortwave radio program in July, 2006 in order to focus on television broadcasts, which are more susceptible to censorship, since the government regularly confiscates satellites dishes in order to prevent the infiltration of foreign broadcasts.”
    This is not the only one. The mismanagement at the Persian Service of Voice of America is the subject of hundreds of sites and articles indicative of disgusts and ridicules in the world about VOA.
    The bizarre situation at the Persian Service of Voice of America caused even the Republican Senator Coburn to write a long letter to President Bush about the fiasco there.
    It is only in America where the government pays to be insulted. Really, why Voice of America is doing this harm to our nation?

  • Obama was in New Hampshire. I guess he took Sen Reid at his word when he (Reid) said yesterday that the amendment wasn’t coming up for a vote any time soon…

  • Nice to see Hillary hasn’t learned a damn thing. She won’t get my vote in any election. I’d rather have an identifiable enemy in the white house in 2009 than the goddamned Clintons. Backstabbing scum and intellectual morons that they both are.

  • Voice of America and Fiasco at Persian Service.
    There is no need to attack Iran IF the Bush administration pays attention:
    Millions of dollars are spent in Persian Service of Voice of America but the end result is nothing but scandalous way of cockamamie management and programming.
    It is hard to believe but the Persian Service which supposed to be an organization to convey the policy of the U.S. has become a free platform for hard-line terrorist group of communists who attack the United Sates!
    I have the documents in writings to prove that these were done with the full knowledge of the management.
    I used to work there and as I said before, I have all the documents in writings.
    The manager is a woman called Sheila Gandji who can not read and write Persian. Therefore, in order to hide this shortcoming from the higher management, she has hired an eighty something man called Kambiz Mahmoudi who has a lengthy background as crook and in charlatanism.
    You expect a doctor to be in charge of a medical clinic. You expect an engineer to be in charge of an engineering department. You expect a plumber to fix your plumbing.
    So why do you expect a person who has no education in Iran and doesn’t know the language of that country should be in charge of publicity, literature or politic for such position?
    Sheila Gandji falsely pretended and presented herself as educated with background in journalism. These are absolute fabrications. Nobody in Iranian communities inside of the country or outside has any knowledge about her being a journalist, then and now.
    Her partner, Kambiz Mahmoudi is a hateful and despicable person whose activities as crook are widely known through out Iran. Can’t the U.S. government appoint somebody without such shameful background and baggage?
    Don’t think that this is a personal vendetta.
    Let me quote you a view from another media:
    “The Iran Steering group concluded that much of the anti-American perspective that is broadcast is the result of decisions made by station managers in Washington D.C. and Prague. Sheila Gandji, the manager of Persian service has faced sharp criticism, particularly for her decision to stop VOA shortwave radio program in July, 2006 in order to focus on television broadcasts, which are more susceptible to censorship, since the government regularly confiscates satellites dishes in order to prevent the infiltration of foreign broadcasts.”
    And this is not the only one. The mismanagement at the Persian Service of Voice of America is the subject of hundreds of web sites and articles in newspapers indicative of disgusts and ridicules in the world about VOA.
    The bizarre situation at the Persian Service of Voice of America caused even the Republican Senator Coburn to write a long letter to President Bush about the fiasco there.
    It is only in America where the government pays to be insulted. Really, why Voice of America is doing this harm to our nation?

  • The wars are overseen and thoughtover and fought ‘ for greater peace’ always. Ancient War Lording or Fuedal practices that USA was created against put up escuses to deliver more cruelty and fear into others.Especially chase the issue because Feudals and War Lords consider themselves unaccluntable….All day long i try to tell that Jimmy Carter instigated Pakistani Military Gen Zia to fight Afgan Communists and IS sanctioned 1.8 Billions.The Pakistani didnt fight but diverted enlistments that eventually known as Mujahedeen took Kabul. Now to every logic that was end of story…But Carter didnt notice the diplomatic need to now go to Kabul and make a pledge for Afganistans future and announce Democracy theree…..This small diplomatic error is letting the us military weapon activate against opressed public that ties bombs to thier bodies and fits bombs in their cars and crashes in political processions too? ‘strategy i mean”

  • Especially chase the issue because Feudals and War Lords consider themselves unaccountable,which however The US Senate and Congress are Accountable…..Lets see!

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