Fred Thompson: From GOP savior to campaign punch-line

It seems almost amusing to think that as recently as, say, August, a significant portion of the Republican Party was absolutely convinced that actor-lobbyist-politician Fred Thompson was going to ride into the presidential forum on a white horse and save the party from electoral ruin. Sure, Thompson backers said, there’s a learning curve for anyone who runs for the presidency, especially those who’ve been away from politics for years, but the former senator from Tennessee wouldn’t have any trouble.

It’s clearly not working out as planned. Even if we put substance aside for a moment, Thompson, at this point, is perhaps the least capable candidate of the 18 people running for president.

Twenty-four minutes after he began speaking in a small restaurant the other day, Fred D. Thompson brought his remarks to a close with a nod of his head and an expression of thanks to Iowans for allowing him to “give my thoughts about some things.”

Then he stood face to face with a silent audience.

“Can I have a round of applause?” Mr. Thompson said, drawing a rustle of clapping and some laughter. “Well, I had to drag that out of you,” he said.

Ouch. This comes just a few weeks after Thompson, while campaigning in Florida, drew such blank stares from his audience that he asked no one in particular if his microphone was on. It was.

But maybe, some will say, this is an over-emphasis on style. Thompson’s strength was supposed to be his smooth demeanor and folksy charm on the campaign stump, which suggests his biggest asset now looks like a weakness, but perhaps Thompson is exceeding expectations when it comes to substance.

If only. Yesterday was perhaps my favorite example of Thompson cluelessness to date.

The only political public service Thompson has performed since leaving the Senate and joining the cast of “Law & Order” is shepherding John Roberts’ Supreme Court nomination through the Senate. Thompson was responsible for lining up support, preparing Roberts for the confirmation hearings, providing senators and the Senate Judiciary Committee with materials, etc.

It was his only recent experience, and he doesn’t seem to remember it very well.

[Tuesday] night in Iowa he said that the Dems controlled congress when John Roberts went through his confirmation hearings for Chief Justice.

That is wrong, the Republicans still controlled the Senate and the Judiciary Committee of course, and Fred was designated to make the rounds on Capitol Hill at the time as Roberts’ shepherd.

Thompson wasn’t just some bit player — the man responsible for shepherding a Supreme Court nomination through the Senate just two years ago didn’t know that Republicans (his own party) were in the majority?

And you know what this means: time to update the big board.

* Thompson mistakenly believes Saddam Hussein had WMD shortly before the U.S. invasion in 2003.

* Tennessee, Thompson’s alleged home state, is in the midst of a major controversy over executions by way of lethal injection. A federal judge ruled the procedures unconstitutional last week, which was big news in the state. Asked for his opinion on the developments on Friday, Thompson responded, “I hadn’t heard that. I didn’t know.”

* Asked about the Jena Six, Thompson said, “I don’t know anything about it.”

* Asked about his thoughts on the Terri Schiavo matter, Thompson said, “That’s going back in history. I don’t remember the details of it.”

* Asked about hurricane property insurance while campaigning in Florida, a huge local issue, Thompson said he doesn’t “know all the facts surrounding that case.”

* Asked about Social Security reform, one of the top issues on his policy agenda, Thompson said he couldn’t remember what Bush’s position was on Social Security two years ago.

* Asked about oil drilling in the Everglades, while campaigning in Florida, Thompson said he didn’t know there was oil under the Everglades and didn’t know it was an important local issue.

And now he doesn’t even know which party was in the majority in the last Congress, despite shepherding a Supreme Court nomination through the Senate at the time.

One last thing: the NYT notes that Thompson, in addition to not knowing much of anything about current events, doesn’t even seem to like campaigning.

After his events, he tended to stay for only a few minutes to sign some autographs or pose for some pictures. Mr. Thompson does not appear to share the taste of some of his rivals for lingering at the rope line shaking hands; he tends not to ask many questions of the people he meets and not to make prolonged eye contact with them.

Why is this guy even running?

Even if we put substance aside for a moment, Thompson, at this point, is perhaps the least capable candidate of the 18 people running for president.

And Bush wasn’t the least capable of his cohort?

  • Fred’s a super-Reagan: a better career in acting, a younger second wife, even more Alzheimer’s, and not quite as dead.

  • The op-ed writer in my local, very rural paper, is swooning over Thompson’s solid conservative credentials and, live tweetie, his “man musk.” Compares him to Reagan, a man who actually thought for years about his positions (right or wrong). I just might use Steve’s info from the “big board” to take him down a step in the next edition (it’s a weekly).

    Should be fun. The guys column is called “My Unbased Opinion.” Really, it is unbased, not unbiased.

  • Okay, Fred Thompson’s ineptitude has just matched Hilary’s cackle and John Edwards’ haircut for newsworthiness.

    CB, please refrain from reporting anything about him below the level of “colossally stupid.” (e.g. walking through a prepared Baghdad market with a platoon of Marines and telling us how safe it is there.)

    Thank you.

  • wiliamjacobs – I’d like for you to compare what you read here to what’s in the MSM. My local WingNut rag did mention some problems with his recent visit here, but that was sandwiched between several comparisons to Reagan (including the headline).
    Perhaps we ae seeing the lessened effects of the MSM. Rud-ee and this lump are their guys. And people show up for Frederick of Hollywood, only to be disappointed.

  • Why is this guy even running?

    Are candidates allowed to keep a portion of their camaign money when they drop out? If so, maybe that’s why. Or maybe he’s in it for the sole purpose of dropping out and endorsing another candidate when that other candidate wants a manufactured boost of “momentum.” The other candidate in question would be the highest bidder of course, probably Romney.

    But can he keep from imploding? Fred Thompson can’t fake it. He’s a lazy, decadant, horny old Hollywood bastard who really doesn’t give a shit about much of anything but his own pleasure when it comes down to it. He’s what Dostoyevsky would have called a “sensualist.” And hey- that’s cool with me. Go on with your bad self, you booze-swillin’, big steak eatin’, nap taking, trophy wife screwing, fat, lazy idiot. I hope you con the GOP out of a ton of their ill-gotten money, Fred Thompson…You Jerk!

  • wvmd, that op-ed guy should change his byline—to “My Baseless Opinion.”

    I heard about UnAware Fred’s Excellent Misadventure.. The audience was so quiet, it was creepy. There wasn’t even the sound of a cricket chirping. The wind stopped blowing. The clouds froze in their tracks, and every individual blade of grass stood still.

    And here I thought things like that only happened to Daffy Duck when he’s trying to “one-up” Bugs Bunny!

  • I think I get what’s going on here: It’s all about subtlety in branding. He’s positioning himself as the new St. Ronnie so, along with the folksy charm and the Hollywood credentials, he’s also emulating Reagan by presenting himself as clueless. Those who pine for the Reagan era will respond to the subliminal perception.

  • “Can I have a round of applause?” Mr. Thompson said, drawing a rustle of clapping and some laughter. “Well, I had to drag that out of you,” he said.

    Former Alaska Governor Frank Murkowski had the same habit of begging for applause. He came in third in the GOP primary last year, despite being the incumbent. Now that’s unpopular.

  • Ol’ Saggy Face should walk in the door and stand there while the theme music from Law and Order plays for about 5 minutes. He should then nod slightly and seriously to the gathering, turn around and walk out. If he could actually bring himself to walk to his Red Pickup and drive away in it, he could be elected President of the United States. His vague image as competent savior will be intact and folks will be reminded of what they like best about FT.

    When it comes to debates, every time he got a question, the music could play again in lieu of a verbal response.

  • Poor Fred. You don’t suppose Republicans (or Americans in general, for that matter) have finally had enough of vacuous, platitude spouting, know-nothing guys you’d like to have a beer with for presidents, do you? Does Tweety Mathews still dig his manly aroma at least?

    You know I’ve never really expected great things of old Fred. He struck me early on as a likely flash in the pan. But I’ve also been privately wondering if perhaps I wasn’t just being a little optimistic in that respect. George W. Bush was pretty hard to take seriously as a candidate too. He just had a better advance team. (Everyone outside Florida who knew there was oil under the Everglades, raise your hand.)

  • IMHO he’s probably running because his wife made him run. She’s pissed because she married a world-beater who it turns out would rather go fishing than rape and pillage the planet like a good Republican.

  • I hope cement head Fred can hang in there and make it to a debate or two……..imagine the fun….scratching that big shaggy head on national tv………'”I dunno……… I didn’t know………..oil in the everglades ? Terri who ?………” Get back to us on that Fred and watch out for that pesky Soviet Union , maybe you could tell them ” Tear down that wall ” . Fred Thompson is the ideal candidate for these times. No one else has a better grasp of the issues that challenge our nation now, in the year of our Lord, 1968 !

  • AND THE WINNER IS BY ANOTHER 20 POINT MARGIN
    (thats how much he won by in both elections he was in right here in tennessee)

    MR. PRESIDENT
    FRED THOMPSON

  • Well, Fred is folksy, I’ll give him that. But what the GOP seems to need is someone who can combine “folksy” with “fiery.” Someone who can rally the base and make newcomers swoon with righteous indignation, platitudes about how great this nation is (not could be, not will be, but is, right now, regardless of every awful thing we’ve done these past 7 years), and the conviction that change must come and only he can provide it. He meanders on stage like Will Rogers on a Nyquil bender and no motor skills. Can’t impress with his oratory style, can’t inspire any energy, heck, he can’t even come across like he’s trying to help make a little kid cry for losing his ice cream by picking him up and playing a song on his banjo. He’s lifeless, at a time when his party needs lifeblood.

    Not that I’m complaining, mind you…

  • Even if we put substance aside for a moment, Thompson, at this point, is perhaps the least capable candidate of the 18 people running for president.
    –CB

    Oh dear … given Rudi “I OWN 9/11” and the McCain Implosion Tour 2007, that’s saying something.

    Fred’s a super-Reagan: a better career in acting, a younger second wife, even more Alzheimer’s, and not quite as dead.

    That’s just wrong.

    So much so, I giggled … out loud.

    🙂

  • Why is this guy even running?

    He bought into the idea that he’d be able to sweep in and be handed the presidency with no work. I’m not sure who, but SOMEONE high up the chain in the GOP seemed to think he’d be a savior candidate. They probably thought his ‘face recognition’ and the fact that he played a lot of tough guys would be enough. And that Fred was dumb enough to be more malleable than some of the other candidates.

    That’s the problem with finding a good puppet – you have to find one stupid enough to be your puppet, but not so stupid that they look like a slackjawed fool out on the campaign trail. Oh the perils of being a powerbroker these days….

  • That’s the problem with finding a good puppet – you have to find one stupid enough to be your puppet, but not so stupid that they look like a slackjawed fool out on the campaign trail. Oh the perils of being a powerbroker these days….

    Which is why I still think Newt will enter the race. The guy is one of the puppet masters, still has brand recognition, and is loved by lots in the GOP (even the far right Dobson crowd).

    He’d be the only guy I’d worry about beating a Dem — the current crop doesn’t scare me none because … well, they just suck. Big time. So much so, my dad (who’s never, ever voted for a Dem) said he’d vote for Hillary before any of the current clowns.

    And you have no idea how big a deal that is …

  • racerx has it right: TV’s Fred is running because his hottie wife really, really wants to live in the White House–the ultimate status symbol.

    He couldn’t care less, however, and he doesn’t take much pains to hide this.

  • Re: the notion of electing a know-nothing Hollywood has-been

    Reagan is the most obvious example, but don’t forget Arnold. In California, a state where Pete Wilson had thoroughly screwed the Republican brand seemingly forever, they got a B-list actor into office with no trouble. Granted, Law and Order isn’t quite up there with The Terminator, but OTOH Thompson had actually been a U.S. Senator (Schwartzenegger had zero political credentials). It was worth trying.

    Since it’s flopping, and Rudy has been pronounced unacceptable by Teh Dobson, we’re back to Mitt, who I’ve long thought would end up as the default choice.

  • Haik B, asks the question I had about Newt “Gimme $30 million” Gangrene. I know it is shocking to think a ReThuglican would use a campaign as a get rich quick scheme…[bursts into laughter]. But, I suspect the answer is no or there’d be a lot more contenders.

    “Can I have a round of applause?” Mr. Thompson said, drawing a rustle of clapping and some laughter. “Well, I had to drag that out of you,” he said.

    Shorter Freddie T: Bow before me, peasants!

    The mind reels.

  • Dang, that’s more info than I needed to know. Now I must choose between Freddy Kruger Thompson and Alan Torquemada Keyes. Arg! Why must doing my part to support my party be so difficult? What to do? What to do? I know! I shall mail contributions of support to BOTH! Garçon, two more pennies, s’il vous plait. Bring the shiny new ones. And the tape and two more vellum sheets – the ones with my embossed one-finger salute.

  • In TV parlance, Fred’s jumped the shark.

    Voter,
    You’re hilarious.
    Hell, I’ll even bet money on that. I’ll even spot you 2:1 odds. $100 bucks sez Thompson margin of victory won’t exceed 20 points (the way he’s going, he won’t even win the nomination.)

  • Fomer Dan,

    “Voter” is indeed hilarious. As, IIRC, Frederick of Hollywood only actually won one election. He served for two terms, the first as the result of an appointment by the Governor.

  • I am a Duncan Hunter supporter. It puzzles me to see Republicans voting for FT in straw polls before he even ran. I looked at his website. With a little razor stubble, Fred dy T would look like a bum. I cant believe intelligent Republicans would believe in this guy. What gives.

  • [i]Why is this guy even running?[/i]

    Well, his wife wants him to run. I figure that’s about it. I never thought he would have much impact. As a Ron Paul supporter, I would like for him to split the pro-war vote, but I do not think he can be counted on for that.

  • Pingback: Drasties Blog
  • Pingback: The Body Politik
  • Comments are closed.